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Must have guts of steel those wiganers

Well, the line has soaked for over 24hrs now, just spooled onto spare spools... I can honestly say it was 1 of the better lines I've put on, went on with ease, no curly wurly, no kinks nothing...Saturday when I arrive at the lake I'll give all 3 a good throw out before fishing. A very small part of me thinks I should have gone the 18lb, but I still have enough left to do 1 more spool left on.

I bought a spool of this a month ago for using as hook lengths for sea fishing I wanted maxima but they didn’t have any and this was the cheapest they had apart from the usual Chinese stinky winky 4.99 1000m spool jobs its seems very limp and up to the job so far

I guess if you're asleep and you're suddenly woken by your alarm you don't have to stop and think " is that my soft actioned or stiffer actioned rod " , and if you really mixed things up , " where's the drag on this reel " ? . 😀

It's soaking now, be on tomorrow morning.

Has some good sessions on churn in the past. This one's from years back .... dread to think how many tbh , but I look ten years younger!

Spot of carping for me next week .... 😎heading down the road to the cotswold water park (churn pool ) with a 3 other mates. Monday to Thursday. Hopefully have something for the catch reports this time , some big fish in there these days 🤞 Happy days 😁 Best of luck to anyone else getting out .

Don't knock em pal, think I've had a good 3/4 this week, Meat n Tato pie on a barm cake with red sauce.... Oo ey

I think you might get one or two bites on a cheap low nutrition bait, but if you want to regularly catch a decent food source bait would do better and certainly work for a longer period of time, I think a lot of good baits nowadays seem to have decent vitamin content,and also other health benefits, and I think that will keep them all coming back, and if there are additives that will do them some good and make them feel better they will keep eating it, I went gluten free once and ate really healthily much like Kev, and after a week I felt amazing, healthy, clean more focused, just really good, now I eat all manner of junk again I feel sluggish and slow get depressed more easily and don't feel good, you can tell when you eat well, however you can also get addicted to the wrong things, My analogy is you might walk past the chip shop everyday but you don't always like the smell, occasionally you quite fancy some but then you don't want them again for a long while, whereas meat and veg type things give you the right fuel and you would want to eat them more as you know they will do you good Now @Highy and the northerners like the occasional Wigan kebab but they wouldn't eat them daily would they?????????

I honestly do believe a better bait will out fish a rubbish bait, but as @kevtaylor pointed out the water itself will make a difference. Fish a rich water where bait may not need to be eaten and you want a decent bait. Fish an overstocked water (and to be honest, most are) any bait may catch. Humans can choose what they eat by thinking, they can choose to eat healthily or not. Carp don't have that choice, Survival, then health. They have to eat what is available, natural food, or pellets or boilies, or maybe particles, even more so in a high stocked environment. I have seen good baits 'dominate' a water, the right bait outproducing every other bait used to the extent of that bait being almost the only one that caught, and it was not particularly heavily baited, around 1kg a week, after an initial 20kg in 2 weeks. Yet Mainline baits have also dominated waters, the Essex Grange, the original Grange CSL, not a bad bait, Activ8, not bad. The Cell, not so good. There is a difference in quality between the bait companies. Some 'Joe Bloggs' garage specials can be produced for exactly the same as the Bait Baron bait, Nash, Mainline etc, but you forget Nash, Mainline are sold nationwide. The cost of that bait may well be £4.50 per kilo, Joe can sell it for that. Mainline or Nash might well sell it for that price as well, but the middleman, (wholesaler) puts his bit on it, so it then gets sold at £7.50 per kilo. Tackle shop buys it, final selling price is £10.99 per kilo. NOT every tackle shop buys direct from Mainline or Nash etc. In the interests of retail the RRP of all shops is £10.99. So Mainline might have different price bands depending on who they sell to, or selling to a shop directly at £4.50, the shop may be able to sell at a big discount. Is the bait market fair? Most definitely not! I can tell you for 100% fact that Crafty Catcher boilies are sold in the Gladwell's shop, right next to the Crafty Catcher factory, Gladwell's own Crafty Catcher, for exactly the same price retail as most tackle shops that sell them. I bet most bait companies with retail outlets adjacent as part of the company are the same. There is an element of price fixing! Baits can be discounted for various reasons: Get rid of, it is not a good seller. End of line Make way for the new stock, either new product or newer model. Discount to increase interest, loss leader Or even nearing end of life, even frozen goods have a life.

OK Rich, well I don't know anyone who uses or bigs up Nash or Mainline except someone who gets it free or is paid to say so. What I hear is cheap contents, effective liquid attractors. Like you say carp eat any old rubbish but that doesn't mean other baits aren't better for the fish and will be recognised as such long term. I read up about bait contents not listening to who shouts loudest, mass production is never as good as your smaller producers who worry about quality not saturating the market. I would pay double what I pay if I believed it gave me a real advantage. You asked why is there cheap deals on - IMO the answer is partly because it can be, whereas expensive to produce bait cannot be. 👍