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I know what a helicopter set up is lol its still not a rig as far as I’m concerned the rig is the bit that catches the fish whether a it’s a chod,ronnie or line aligner the helicopter is a type of lead set up that the rig spins around on I’m just being pedantic 😂

This👆 They use a supple hook link that give the hookbait movement and allows it to be sucked in👍 I think that even in the perfect situation (heavy weed) the chod rig has LOTS of flaws. But it's the only possible to way to fish that type of area effectively. To use it outside of that situation just accentuates most of those flaws imo. There is no logical reason to use it apart from chucking at showing fish when you're not 100% on the substrate.

I think what yonny is saying is that it can not be sucked in. There is no play in the rig. The carp would have to literally have to swim up to it and stick its mouth over the hookbait and rig and then tilt back. Seeing that carp suck and blow to gather food etc into their mouth then the chance of a hook up would be very slim.

No you're not mate. You're speaking sense. A heli is a leader/lead set-up. A chod is a rig. A chod has to be fished on a heli set-up to make use of its limited advantages (those being presentation over substrates that cannot otherwise be fished). But any rig can be used on a heli.

I just think literally they would suck it in, struggle to blow it out due to the stiffness of the rig, tilt up and the lead would sink the hook home, I just think the lead comes into play as soon as the hook is in the fishes mouth and it gets pricked, it's not getting the time a boom section allows it before the lead does its job, Why are PVA bags so effective? , if the carp is quick enough there may be a big pile of pellets and a nice neat hookbait bundle,like you see in tank test videos,but usually the small fish will ruin that in seconds,personally I think the short hooklink has a lot to do with it,

I have heard of them fished off the lead but for me that accentuates all of the rigs many flaws. Over anything but the cleanest/hardest substrates you need a boom i.e the stiff hinge rig. I cannot think of a single advantage to fishing a chod off a clip/inline. I can think of loads of disadvantages though mate.

Mark Holmes was good,always something to think about with him, I do like jules though, I like his consistency, I like his multi rig too lol, I haven't got to his interview yet, but he doesn't half catch em 👍

The one ... It doesn’t exist lol

Haven’t listened to mark Holmes one I like jules but, I can only listen to someone going on about a multi rig for so long lol unfortunately the interviewers always ask the same questions on any of the podcasts so it doesn’t matter if it’s Korda Nash or anyone else they are all the same.

They are speaking about this type of rig being used in Croatia regularly on the carp cast (episode 106)that I was listening to yesterday they use 50 cm hooklengths straight of the lead

I would usually go for a strongly flavoured pop up this time of year, mine are a washed out orange/pink colour, (not sure how they turned out like that, white Polaris basemix with robin red, Scottish salmon oil, frankfurter flavour and fluro pink dye and they came out orange/pink!) although my last session last week, all the bites were on fish meal/robin red bottom baits fished over 2/3kg of freebies. Fishing high flavoured fluro pop ups in isolation didn’t do a bite!

Particles that are easily digested such as groats, hemp and corn should be your main bait this time of year IMO. Of course the most important part of winter carping is watching the water for signs of fish before any bait application.

Interesting elmo not the way I was thinking of doing it but very interesting thank you mucka

Might be warmer of the bottom so if you can stick something in their faces they might eat it where would you want to be atm in the shade or in the sun lol

This time of year temps are more important than food so for me it has to be a very bright, very colourful pop up on the deck, or a bit of black foam mid water. There's nothing wrong with super-charging you pop ups so you have the attraction to match the colour though.

That's true, trouble is the price goes up faster than the bank balance 😂

You used the 2 magic words that make the money old and school lol

I had 4 emblem pros and sold them for 60 quid each. I kick myself every day, so wish I had kept them Haha.

Makes sense I suppose, I think the proper emblem spod reels look nicer though and has a folding handle, I find non folding handles slightly annoying when it comes to packing up, so what you save in retrieve you lose in pack Down 😂 probably more options for customising too 👍 Why are diawa reels soo expensive second hand BTW, you used to be able to get the black emblems for about £70 new a couple of years ago, I think second hand they are always over 300 for a set, I'd love a set of old school emblems, I remember this old boy had a set of gold ones when fishing at Emberton Park in the olden days I thought he was the biz, he was using partiblend too 😂