The Green Party

[Golden Paws]

A Green Party policy that actively encourages the burning of carbon based products??? The world is going mad!

[Dave Fowler]

The greens are delusional commies.

Restore Britain. 

[commonly]

& which party is going to da that Dave???

[Dave Fowler]

I support small scale nuclear, it's good enough for our submarines and net zero is suicide.

Thus, Conservative or Restore.

Restore also address the idiocy of hosepipe bans and shortages in an island with 6 months rain annually. Build more reservoirs on flood plains, not houses.

[OldBoy]

Hopefully this topic won't turn as 'sour' as a certain bait thread seemed too?

Let me just state I am old enough to remember:

3 day week 1974.

Thatcher the milk snatcher

Hillsbourgh cover up 

Tony Blair - 'Things can only get better' New Labour - oh weapons of mass distruction lie brought him down

Soo many more, one thing I have learnt is DON'T worry, just do what you do and don't trust any politicians now, there were a few in the past but can't be bothered anymore with all stuff appearing on media.

As for greens, they will never be in power so don't sweat about them.

On a lighter note, are any 'older' anglers getting on the bank yet?

 

 

[commonly]

I don't know enough to get into, nor support, any particular party.

The tories have just raped and pillaged our economy, (despite imposing austerity???) Whilst allowing their billionaire buddies to continual increase their profits at our expense. 

We need a complete clear out and start again with laws and legislation that try to keep up with the technological revolution we are all living in.

Renationalise all of our services to non profit organisations and see where we are in a decade or two?

Although I'll probably have departed by then.

Sorry guys, not trying to get all political & that,  but I don't use other media outlets.

[OldBoy]

12 minutes ago, commonly said:

The tories have just raped and pillaged our economy, (despite imposing austerity???) Whilst allowing their billionaire buddies to continual increase their profits at our expense. 

 

Bit strong mate, didn't Thatcher actually give the 'right to buy' council homes years ago to 'working class' families? , soooo many jumped into it, can't say I blame them lol 👍

[commonly]

That worked wonders for council housing stock and affordable housing.

What happened to the cash they raised??

I struggle to see much in the way of reinvestment. 

As I heard the other day, it's not a cost of living crisis, it's a cost of profits crisis

[framey]

What needs to happen is stop the rich foreign and home bred investors buying up housing stock to let to tenants at a stupidly high rent.

You should only be allowed to own 1 maybe at a push 2 properties and then There could be enough to go around. And at a fair price 

prices we pay for property in the uk is disgusting.

in a council/social house 

be made to give back any house with more than 1 SPARE bedroom and downsize.

we need a party that works for the people not themselves.

I’m almost at a point after watching that dirty business drama last night where I’m going to refuse to buy a rod license but that’s a different subject.

 

 

 

[salokcinnodrog]

2 hours ago, commonly said:

That worked wonders for council housing stock and affordable housing.

What happened to the cash they raised??

I struggle to see much in the way of reinvestment. 

As I heard the other day, it's not a cost of living crisis, it's a cost of profits crisis

The national government 'confiscated' it. Instead of buying and building new local authority housing it went to national government to 'repay' the annual budgets and loans. Britain lost over 50% of the local authority housing.

Building companies were given land at cheap rates for housing, which instead of building on, they 'landbanked' after gaining planning permission. The top ten building companies own enough land to build over 1.5million properties (which is Labours housing target), and have the cash reserves already to do so, but can't get the skilled workers as they failed to train apprentices, and refuse to build unless they make a profit on sales.

There are some local authorities who have built or are building new properties, but used building companies who weren't part of the landbanking schemes, basically new building firms.

 

In Norfolk when Right to Buy came to force, an estate of new council properties had just been built in Bowthorpe and Costessey. Tenants were moved into those properties, often from older council houses and the Right to Buy discount meant they got new properties at extremely low prices. The older houses and flats those tenants were in were supposed to be renovated. Some of the areas ended up derelict (Anglia Square) 

1 hour ago, framey said:

What needs to happen is stop the rich foreign and home bred investors buying up housing stock to let to tenants at a stupidly high rent.

You should only be allowed to own 1 maybe at a push 2 properties and then There could be enough to go around. And at a fair price 

prices we pay for property in the uk is disgusting.

in a council/social house 

be made to give back any house with more than 1 SPARE bedroom and downsize.

we need a party that works for the people not themselves.

I’m almost at a point after watching that dirty business drama last night where I’m going to refuse to buy a rod license but that’s a different subject.

 

 

 

That is a story in itself.

The Right to Buy scheme meant many tenants bought properties on mortgages that they could never afford, so were repossessed by the banks and building societies and later sold off to just cover the debt. Many private landlords bought numerous properties and made the cost of purchase through renting the houses out. I know of at least one Ipswich landlord, ex bank employee, who owned at least ten properties in Ipswich.

[commonly]

Unfortunately,  this type of scenario is played out in most sectors, there's nothing Great left in Britain.

Apart from us dopes that pay our taxes and live by antiquated laws and processes 😪

[OldBoy]

22 hours ago, OldBoy said:

Bit strong mate, didn't Thatcher actually give the 'right to buy' council homes years ago to 'working class' families? , soooo many jumped into it, can't say I blame them lol 👍

Actually mate, I need to add to this, I wouldn't normally post links to BBC, but I have been made aware of a C4 progam called 'Dirty Buisness'

I (We) all know as anglers how much water companies pump untreated waste into rivers and seas but this is beyound belief!

Thatcher and the tories, and now labour really have a lot to answer for 🥵

Here is the link: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c309z18e47no

[OldBoy]

21 hours ago, framey said:

I'’m almost at a point after watching that dirty business drama last night where I’m going to refuse to buy a rod license but that’s a different subject.

Sorry mate, missed this from you.

It does make your blood boil. I have just watched it.

Hopefully if picked up it will have the same effect as the PO program? 👍

[framey]

58 minutes ago, OldBoy said:

Sorry mate, missed this from you.

It does make your blood boil. I have just watched it.

Hopefully if picked up it will have the same effect as the PO program? 👍

blooming disgusting

the cover ups by the environment agency letting the water companies spill as much as they did.

shocking docufilm.

 

i do appreciate its tv and will have a lot to capture the audience but even it a 10th is true it’s immoral what they did.

every angler should watch it 

scrub that 

everyone should watch it 

Edited 19 hours ago by framey

[OldBoy]

Totally agree mate 👍

I have just watched the whole series.... pardon my french but a corrupt load of f**kers!!!

[elmoputney]

2 hours ago, OldBoy said:

Totally agree mate 👍

I have just watched the whole series.... pardon my french but a corrupt load of f**kers!!!

That's why people should be voting green, because they are pretty much the only party that actually want to put people above profit. 

[elmoputney]

Also Rupert Lowe is not one of the good guys, Restore Britain is just another millionaire backed far right venture that is based on racial hatred and control of the population, it preys on the vulnerable, offers no hope and whatever you think they don't care about you, this country or anyone else but themselves. 

[Dave Fowler]

6 hours ago, OldBoy said:

Sorry mate, missed this from you.

It does make your blood boil. I have just watched it.

Hopefully if picked up it will have the same effect as the PO program? 👍

The post office still use Horizon.

There is no accountability. 

[framey]

37 minutes ago, Dave Fowler said:

The post office still use Horizon.

There is no accountability. 

Too much money invested I’m guessing 

it’s a joke.

[framey]

1 minute ago, framey said:

Too much money invested I’m guessing 

it’s a joke.

Yup

The Post Office has spent 

over £600 million on contracts with Fujitsuto continue using the controversial Horizon IT system, with costs extending until at least March 2026. A further £41 million was agreed to extend the contract for another year until March 2027. 

BBC +3

Key details regarding costs:

Contract Value: The Post Office is "shackled" to the system, paying over £600m to Fujitsu, largely because they do not own the core code.

Ongoing Costs: A £41 million extension was added in late 2025 to keep the system running until March 2027.

Compensation Costs: Separately, over £1 billion has been paid out in compensation to over 7,300 victims of the scandal as of June 2025. 

 

The system has been in place for over a decade despite being identified for replacement. 

[salokcinnodrog]

12 hours ago, elmoputney said:

That's why people should be voting green, because they are pretty much the only party that actually want to put people above profit. 

There is a problem in that. 

Green energy is brilliant, but relying on North Sea wind farms is damaging the seafloor environment. It is 'out of sight, out of mind'. Solar farms, using arable or livestock land to put up solar panels is not Green. The cleaning of those panels put earth damaging chemicals in the soil. Your Fairy liquid is one of the most damaging products, despite being biodegradable, imagine industrial strength Fairy cleaning products.

Wind power technology relies on wind; too little no electricity, too strong wind, and the turbines have to be switched off.

Solar panels are only about 15% effective. 85% of the sunlight is wasted, and the waste increases the ambient temperature around the panels, potentially reducing important natural wildlife. Crops and livestock can't be grown effectively around solar panels.

Importing goods from abroad, brilliant, let's keep our emissions at 0.4% while China goes to 25% of global emissions and we can ignore the emissions created by transporting goods halfway the world.

Yet manufacturing, as yet, electricity is not suitable to power smelting, metalwork, glass making. You need gas, coal or coke.

You can't have an economy without manufacturing, and you can't have 'legalise drugs' as the manifesto. 

[Dave Fowler]

24 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said:

There is a problem in that. 

Green energy is brilliant, but relying on North Sea wind farms is damaging the seafloor environment. It is 'out of sight, out of mind'. Solar farms, using arable or livestock land to put up solar panels is not Green. The cleaning of those panels put earth damaging chemicals in the soil. Your Fairy liquid is one of the most damaging products, despite being biodegradable, imagine industrial strength Fairy cleaning products.

Wind power technology relies on wind; too little no electricity, too strong wind, and the turbines have to be switched off.

Solar panels are only about 15% effective. 85% of the sunlight is wasted, and the waste increases the ambient temperature around the panels, potentially reducing important natural wildlife. Crops and livestock can't be grown effectively around solar panels.

Importing goods from abroad, brilliant, let's keep our emissions at 0.4% while China goes to 25% of global emissions and we can ignore the emissions created by transporting goods halfway the world.

Yet manufacturing, as yet, electricity is not suitable to power smelting, metalwork, glass making. You need gas, coal or coke.

You can't have an economy without manufacturing, and you can't have 'legalise drugs' as the manifesto. 

Stop talking sense now. 😆 

Legalised hard drugs, really ?

[commonly]

At least it would raise some much needed cash, instead giving that to foreign mafias

😉

[elmoputney]

27 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said:

There is a problem in that. 

Green energy is brilliant, but relying on North Sea wind farms is damaging the seafloor environment. It is 'out of sight, out of mind'. Solar farms, using arable or livestock land to put up solar panels is not Green. The cleaning of those panels put earth damaging chemicals in the soil. Your Fairy liquid is one of the most damaging products, despite being biodegradable, imagine industrial strength Fairy cleaning products.

Wind power technology relies on wind; too little no electricity, too strong wind, and the turbines have to be switched off.

Solar panels are only about 15% effective. 85% of the sunlight is wasted, and the waste increases the ambient temperature around the panels, potentially reducing important natural wildlife. Crops and livestock can't be grown effectively around solar panels.

Importing goods from abroad, brilliant, let's keep our emissions at 0.4% while China goes to 25% of global emissions and we can ignore the emissions created by transporting goods halfway the world.

Yet manufacturing, as yet, electricity is not suitable to power smelting, metalwork, glass making. You need gas, coal or coke.

You can't have an economy without manufacturing, and you can't have 'legalise drugs' as the manifesto. 

So what do you suggest ? Doing something is better than doing nothing. Remember those winters we used to have as kids, you know real snow. My kids have never seen real snow that isn't gone in a flash. Perhaps read the green manifesto they want to support farmers to grow more locally, renationalise all utilities and bring as much as they can back under our control. All the other parties are just selling us to neoliberal investors.we will be completely asset stripped and left to rot. 

 

Also Why can't you legalise drugs? Why not control substances rather than allow criminal gangs to control them? Why not profit from them to rebuild the economy rather than allowing criminals to get richer? The profits could provide much needed rehabilitation and recovery centres, better hospital funding. 

[Dave Fowler]

52 minutes ago, commonly said:

At least it would raise some much needed cash, instead giving that to foreign mafias

😉

Great idea, now guess where the heroin/opium comes from......your high street 'Turkish' barber ?