greekskii Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, B.C. said: TBH, I doubt it will go in a quiver/ rod holdall. And yes, it will be more bulk than a shop bought version.. I was thinking, a couple of bungee loops to fasten it all together and chuck it on the barrow. At the end of the day, it's extra kit, so will take up "some" room, although weight wise, shouldn't be much of a problem on a decent barrow.................... It's a cheap offering that will get someone by and give a few more options on the bank. I can't say that it would be at all better than a shop bought one, but I've seen one in use and it did the job. I'm interested as I can stash it in the undergrowth and only bring it out when I need it depending on swim choice...but then again I'll be in a fenced place with no other anglers but if it went walkies, it could be replaced. B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 On 02/04/2018 at 12:27, greekskii said: And if you havent BC could you do a picture guide when you do. One question. How do you ensure you rig lays out as you would hitting the clip? I think this is the same issue as people just dropping rigs from a bait boat on a slack line, not knowing what they landed on or how it landed and thinking that's OK, which it isn't. A skilled angler like Mr Hearn tightens up before releasing the hopper and feels the lead down and will not leave it if he didn't get a good drop, to me the same applies here, tighten up before turning the spoon over and feel the rig down. Bait up with the spoon afterwards IF you got a good drop. Old_Skool_Carper, B.C. and greekskii 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted April 12, 2018 Report Share Posted April 12, 2018 15 minutes ago, kevtaylor said: not knowing what they landed on or how it landed and thinking that's OK, which it isn't. Agree. kevtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Sorry for the delay on this one fella's, been utterly flat out on other things...... Family dog's body I'm afraid... Will post up something as soon as I can.. greekskii 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spr1985 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 minutes ago, carpmachine said: Hmm, Argos do ten metres of drain rods for 13 quid, thoughts please We use 21.5mm black plastic conduit at work and I believe it’s about £3 per 3m length mate if that helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spr1985 Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 34 minutes ago, carpmachine said: The drain rods are designed for use in water, i am a qualified electrician, conduit, i am not sure, the drain rods have purposely threaded segments, but would they float, Vik has a nice looking read scythe, possible lily cutter, what do you reckon, no carp tax and i have a big set in the shed. 😂🤣 and I’m an ac fitter and use it for it’s designed purpose.....condense drains from the ac unit to the pump (so its 100% safe for water as it has water running through it all day everyday) we glue it together using couplers......not sure if the couplers would stay together for the use you’re intending without glue but could be worth a shot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyborx Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 1 hour ago, carpmachine said: Food for thought buddy, but that glue means it wont fit in my car, know the stuff, great idea but has its drawbacks, drain rods , dont know, but worth a thought, any way we can beat carp tax is a bonus. drain rods would be a tad heavy to carry round the pool bud, i know, i was a chimney sweeps lad in another life and carrying them litteraly killed me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyborx Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 having used upvc conduit in old renovations i happen to know that you can buy threaded adapters to join the new stuff to the old style steel pipe and fittings, if you glue a male on one end and a female on the other you will be able to screw 1mtr lengths together to go as far as you like, just a thought loike B.C. and spr1985 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianain Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Or drill a hole and pin them together using the connectors? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 5 hours ago, carpmachine said: Hmm, Argos do ten metres of drain rods for 13 quid, thoughts please They are probably too heavy mate and will sink without loads of floats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 2 hours ago, cyborx said: screw 1mtr lengths together to go as far as you like, just a thought loike That's exactly the way to do it, only in 2mtre lengths and a small piece of pipe lagging every now and then to help with buoyancy...... cyborx 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianain Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 If each end of a hollow pole is plugged with cork or foam, it should be quite buoyant; the drain rods I have will let water in as that is the way they are made (brass fittings, pinned in place); but I haven't tried to float them on water. Yet!, I might get a chance if I play my cards right Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell_ll Posted April 23, 2018 Report Share Posted April 23, 2018 Best home made baiting pole i have seen was made from an old fishing pole and a landing net handle. B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cyborx Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 14 hours ago, B.C. said: That's exactly the way to do it, only in 2mtre lengths and a small piece of pipe lagging every now and then to help with buoyancy...... was thinking about filling each section with expanding foam? should float anyway then B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ianain Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 My drain rods sink Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spr1985 Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 3 hours ago, ianain said: My drain rods sink That’s that idea down the drain then 😝 I think the plastic conduit may be worth a shot.....I may borrow some from work and give it a try and report back if I get chance ianain 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greekskii Posted April 24, 2018 Report Share Posted April 24, 2018 Conduit will work. Drain pipe is heavier as it needs to be strong. If BC doesn’t find the time then come winter I will make something based on BC’s idea, conduit, expanding foam and glued in M/F connectors. I’ve realised my ambition to use it where I wanted too was just that, unless I made one 25m+ which just seems unreasonable. Back to the drawing board for that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 14 hours ago, greekskii said: Conduit will work. Drain pipe is heavier as it needs to be strong. If BC doesn’t find the time then come winter I will make something based on BC’s idea, conduit, expanding foam and glued in M/F connectors. I’ve realised my ambition to use it where I wanted too was just that, unless I made one 25m+ which just seems unreasonable. Back to the drawing board for that one. Stage 1 complete mate...... got 8 lengths foamed up last night that's 16mtres.... gonna leave them a couple of days just to make sure they cure properly.. In the mean time I'll get a little pot soted... Was thinking of using a "clip lid " pot....... Put some holes in the lid, which can be used to create a bit more of a spread of bait with particle , say 1mtre squared, instead of a little pile, just gives options , that way, especially when prepping a spot before fishing it. I've not made one before, so least ways we can learn a few does and don'ts from this one.... I'll pick away at getting it done through the week, I've taken a few picks of stage 1 and I'll post pic's and info once it's finished and tested, hopefully by Sunday night To be fair mate, you prob could use one at 25mtres plus, I'd like mine to go to 40mtres eventually, to get up the margin in an area where there are no swims cut out. Just depends on any cross winds, but I doubt a shop bought one would cope anyway at that range in wind. greekskii 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greekskii Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 1 hour ago, B.C. said: Stage 1 complete mate...... got 8 lengths foamed up last night that's 16mtres.... gonna leave them a couple of days just to make sure they cure properly.. In the mean time I'll get a little pot soted... Was thinking of using a "clip lid " pot....... Put some holes in the lid, which can be used to create a bit more of a spread of bait with particle , say 1mtre squared, instead of a little pile, just gives options , that way, especially when prepping a spot before fishing it. I've not made one before, so least ways we can learn a few does and don'ts from this one.... I'll pick away at getting it done through the week, I've taken a few picks of stage 1 and I'll post pic's and info once it's finished and tested, hopefully by Sunday night To be fair mate, you prob could use one at 25mtres plus, I'd like mine to go to 40mtres eventually, to get up the margin in an area where there are no swims cut out. Just depends on any cross winds, but I doubt a shop bought one would cope anyway at that range in wind. I needing around 50m to reach what I need, across the lake due to casting room. Be an awful lot of pipe to carry about too. Very interested to see how you've got on and if it works as having a 20m baiting pole when you need it could be really handy! B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 I have been using a Daiwa 5.90mts landing net handle for the last couple of years... dead handy for sneaky placing of bait and rig... the pole is a multi section telescopic that collapses down to a cheeky little 27 inches... I bought it for fishing high banks and for that its also superb... a well thought out bit of kit that fills two roles admirably... not cheap(£60) but it fits nicely into my Nash Dwarf rod bag as well ... win win all round B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted April 25, 2018 Report Share Posted April 25, 2018 5 hours ago, greekskii said: Very interested to see how you've got on and if it works as having a 20m baiting pole when you need it could be really handy! Well, the good thing is, having done a little test today.. The whole thing floats like a cork..... I put 16mtrs out and it floats fine with the expanding foam inside, another 2 sections will give you 20mtres.... The down side, even with the foam inside, it's still a bit bendy... pics soon.. left my phone usb in the shed.. spr1985 and greekskii 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Home made pole so far....... Screwed down some 2mtr lengths of conduit to keep them straight and squirted in some expanding foam at a few places along their length......... This took about 20mins for 8 lengths..... Had to drill out a few larger holes to accommodate the nozzle hose for the foam. spr1985, Old_Skool_Carper and greekskii 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 (edited) Next day cleaned them off and used solvent cement to attach the male and female connectors.......... This took about 45 mins as I was a bit sloppy when applying the foam.... Edited April 26, 2018 by B.C. Old_Skool_Carper, spr1985 and greekskii 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Took a piece down the lake to test it for buoyancy, and it floated no problem..... So went back and got the rest, screwed all 16 metres together and pushed it out onto the surface....... It floats like a dream and turns over really easily , albeit with no pot attached........ It was a bit "snakey" at 16mtres, but I applied the foam really quickly and I'm pretty sure there were some air locks inside some of the lengths, which wouldn't of helped... Old_Skool_Carper and yonny 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted April 26, 2018 Report Share Posted April 26, 2018 Anyway, I think there is some milage in this pole which works out at about £1 a metre all in...... I have some extra sections to make up, and I'll take a bit more care with applying the foam, possibly drilling a few small holes along each length to let the air escape as the foam expands........ It's not something I use that often, and it's very unforgiving stuff....... ATM, I'd say it was good for use as a margin baiting pole, wher it can be drifted into the bank, but like I say, in open wter it's a bit snakey, unless I can think of a way to stiffen things up a bit............ Old_Skool_Carper 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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