Richard713 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 My dad is looking to get 2 budget carp rods. He likes my Greys but at £110 a pop are a bit expensive. Think he's looking for 2 for that money. Any suggestions? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooter Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 (edited) Chub outkasts? Edited May 12, 2017 by pooter welder, B.C. and harpz_31 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B.C. Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Outcasts or Fox Warrors...... Both good for the money and around £60 a pop. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David_gravesend Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Wychwood c101s 50 quid a pop Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spr1985 Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 Shimano tribal velocitys prices vary but some cracking deals on eBay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayvid Posted May 12, 2017 Report Share Posted May 12, 2017 1 hour ago, spr1985 said: Shimano tribal velocitys prices vary but some cracking deals on eBay Second that , around £50 each , great rods ,handle well and look good Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smufter Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Another vote for the Tribal Velocity. I've got 3 and love 'em. They are a little bit heavier than others I have handled, but only by an ounce or two. But as they spent the vast majority of their time sitting on rests/alarms it doesn't bother me one iota. B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Fox Warriors all day long.... still got my old Mk1's.. for my own Carping at the mo It's my 9' Dwarf 2.75lbers, light, compact, fit in the boot o' me motor without anything on show to attract lowlife scum, B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangus15 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Total fishing gear 10 foot X2 £60 2.5lb to 3.5lb. EBay pooter and bluelabel 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud9 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 +1 for the warriors , I have only owned mine for a few months and used them just a few times , but they do feel really balanced and a lot lighter than i would expect from 3lb test rods , some of the cheaper rods seem to be tip heavy to me , but these are nicely balanced in the hand dave B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpz_31 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Outcasts all day long, had the 2.5tc and only upgraded when I moved onto a bigger water and I still use the spod and marker rods welder and B.C. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud9 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 4 minutes ago, Big Common said: Are your's the Warrior "s", Dave.....? I think they are BC , I got mine from total fishing tackle and they claim to be made for them , mine have 50mm butt rings and TT in the graphics on the rod , only down side and its probably just me , there is no line clip dave B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpz_31 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 No after a lot of research I went for soniks as they were getting really good write ups so went for the sk4 xtr 3.5tc with 50mm buttring and they kick bottom,very very pleased with them B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard713 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 I like the velocity ones, can get them for £50 but the 3lb one has 50mm butt rings. The outkasts appear to cost a bit more, £82 on angling direct. Are they worth the extra? Is there much between all these rods? I even like the Wychwood one for £50. I guess if they cast well and handle a fish well then all is good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud9 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 the annoying thing is they have gone to the trouble of sticking some whipping on just where the clip should be , so adding one will be a pain Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard713 Posted May 13, 2017 Author Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 Do you feel the 50mm rings give you anything noticeably extra or just more of a hindrance when storing them and finding a sleeve big enough for them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cloud9 Posted May 13, 2017 Report Share Posted May 13, 2017 2 minutes ago, Big Common said: Do the old school thing mate..... Wrap an elastic band round the butt a few times and work it up the blank. Slip your line under it instead of a clip. cant go far wrong with a lolly stick .... B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smufter Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREYS-UNIVERSAL-LINE-CLIPS-X-3-CARP-FISHING-ROD-CLIP-FIT-ON-ANY-CARP-ROD-1325585-/112405047540?hash=item1a2bdce8f4:g:SD0AAOSw44BYK1ch There you go. Pack of three (ooerrrrr!). I used them on some rods I had without clips and they work perfectly. cloud9 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pooter Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 (edited) FWIW I think 50mm rings are a fad. We managed perfectly well in the age of big pit reels with 40mm. Shimano,Daiwa etc, the spool widths haven't got bigger, it's the tackle industry giving it's sales a boost by marketing these as a "must have". Only a tournament caster could possibly utilise them. JMHO Edited May 14, 2017 by pooter B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 3 hours ago, pooter said: FWIW I think 50mm rings are a fad. We managed perfectly well in the age of big pit reels with 40mm. Shimano,Daiwa etc, the spool widths haven't got bigger, it's the tackle industry giving it's sales a boost by marketing these as a "must have". Only a tournament caster could possibly utilise them. JMHO Carp spools have definitely got deeper & wider in the 30 plus years I've been fishing , what was on offer back then to now are very different things. The 50 mm ring sets do make a difference when your trying to really get some distance I have rods with both on & have noticed a lot less friction through the eyes with the 50mm sets . Like you say yourself all the tournament casters use them for a reason . If your not fishing distance then they are pointless.... if your are they can give you extra yards from my experience. Have you used them yourself & compared between the two ? B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 8 hours ago, Big Common said: I'd get the ones that best suited my reels mate.... If you've got largish reels, the 50mm ring might be more suitable. I honestly think that unless you are a massive caster then 50mm rings are a waste. More difficult to protect in transport, heavier than more suitable 40mm rings. The larger ring was to deal with a particular line situation on the cast, feeding or funnelling it down with a particular shaped and sized reel. In terms of budget rods, the current Fox range of Warriors, or Shimano Velocities are worthwhile, or even look at Shimano Alivio DX's. The DX's are underpriced compared to some other budget rods! The Velocity is a recognised name, whereas Alivio is probably not. Here is something for you, and it really pains me to say it, Shimano on the reel side in the basic Baitrunner and cheaper range is going downhill in terms of quality, compared to say 15years ago, but the rods are coming forward. B.C. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Spot on Nick... Unless you are using big wide spools , then they are pointless, it just reduces friction which can help with distance nothing else . When shimano brought out the new range of bait runners a good few years back & stopped the xte & xtea range , the quality in the reels dropped massively , very noticeable . salokcinnodrog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fangus15 Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 If the normal carp angling person had top of the range set of daiwa rods and reels we would be skint and unable to fish because would have any cash for everything else you need. I have £3k of gear but didn't pay anywhere near that for it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 42 minutes ago, chillfactor said: Spot on Nick... Unless you are using big wide spools , then they are pointless, it just reduces friction which can help with distance nothing else . When shimano brought out the new range of bait runners a good few years back & stopped the xte & xtea range , the quality in the reels dropped massively , very noticeable . You reckon some of that was due to going plastic on the gearing? The brass gear cogs seemed to last forever, yet newer plastic ones strip very easily, or slide. The reel finishes don't seem as nice now either. chillfactor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted May 14, 2017 Report Share Posted May 14, 2017 Yes ... & just the overall feel of the reel , I have a selection of xtea's for river fishing / lure fishing & carping , fantastic reels , far better than the recent models . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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