Budget Carp Rods

[Richard713]

My dad is looking to get 2  budget carp rods. He likes my Greys but at £110 a pop are a bit expensive. Think he's looking for 2 for that money. Any suggestions? 

[pooter]

Chub outkasts?

Edited May 12, 2017 by pooter

[B.C.]

Outcasts or Fox Warrors......  Both good for the money and around £60 a pop.

[David_gravesend]

Wychwood c101s

50 quid a pop 

[spr1985]

Shimano tribal velocitys prices vary but some cracking deals on eBay 

[dayvid]

1 hour ago, spr1985 said:

Shimano tribal velocitys prices vary but some cracking deals on eBay 

Second that , around £50 each , great rods ,handle well and look good

[smufter]

Another vote for the Tribal Velocity. 

I've got 3 and love 'em.

They are a little bit heavier than others I have handled, but only by an ounce or two.

But as they spent the vast majority of their time sitting on rests/alarms it doesn't bother me one iota.

 

[bluelabel]

Fox Warriors all day long.... still got my old Mk1's..

for my own Carping at the mo It's my 9' Dwarf 2.75lbers, light, compact, fit in the boot o' me motor without anything on show to attract lowlife scum,

[fangus15]

Total fishing gear 

10 foot X2 £60  2.5lb to 3.5lb.

EBay 

[cloud9]

+1 for the warriors , I have only owned mine for a few months and used them just a few times , but they do feel really balanced and a lot lighter than i would expect from 3lb test rods , some of the cheaper rods seem to be tip heavy to me , but these are nicely balanced in the hand

 

dave      

[harpz_31]

Outcasts all day long, had the 2.5tc and only upgraded when I moved onto a bigger water and I still use the spod and marker rods

[cloud9]

4 minutes ago, Big Common said:

Are your's the Warrior "s", Dave.....?

I think they are BC , I got mine from total fishing tackle and they claim to be made for them , mine have 50mm butt rings and TT in the graphics on the rod , only down side and its probably just me , there is no line clip   

 

dave 

[harpz_31]

No after a lot of research I went for soniks as they were getting really good write ups so went for the sk4 xtr 3.5tc with 50mm buttring and they kick bottom,very very pleased with them

[Richard713]

I like the velocity ones, can get them for £50 but the 3lb one has 50mm butt rings. The outkasts appear to cost a bit more, £82 on angling direct. Are they worth the extra? Is there much between all these rods? I even like the Wychwood one for £50. I guess if they cast well and handle a fish well then all is good? 

[cloud9]

the annoying thing is they have gone to the trouble of sticking some whipping on just where the clip should be , so adding one will be a pain   

[Richard713]

Do you feel the 50mm rings give you anything noticeably extra or just more of a hindrance when storing them and finding a sleeve big enough for them? 

[cloud9]

2 minutes ago, Big Common said:

Do the old school thing mate..... Wrap an elastic band round the butt a few times and work it up the blank. Slip your line under it instead of a clip.

cant go far wrong with a lolly stick ....

[smufter]

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/GREYS-UNIVERSAL-LINE-CLIPS-X-3-CARP-FISHING-ROD-CLIP-FIT-ON-ANY-CARP-ROD-1325585-/112405047540?hash=item1a2bdce8f4:g:SD0AAOSw44BYK1ch

 

There you go.

Pack of three (ooerrrrr!).

I used them on some rods I had without clips and they work perfectly.

[pooter]

FWIW I think  50mm rings are a fad. We managed perfectly well in the age of big pit reels with 40mm. Shimano,Daiwa etc, the spool widths haven't got bigger, it's the tackle industry giving it's sales a boost by marketing these as a "must have". Only a tournament caster could possibly utilise them.

JMHO

Edited May 14, 2017 by pooter

[chillfactor]

3 hours ago, pooter said:

FWIW I think  50mm rings are a fad. We managed perfectly well in the age of big pit reels with 40mm. Shimano,Daiwa etc, the spool widths haven't got bigger, it's the tackle industry giving it's sales a boost by marketing these as a "must have". Only a tournament caster could possibly utilise them.

JMHO

Carp spools have definitely got deeper & wider in the 30 plus years I've been fishing , what was on offer  back  then to now are very different things.  The 50 mm ring sets do make a difference when your trying to really get some distance I have rods with both on & have noticed a lot less friction through the eyes with the 50mm sets . Like you say yourself all the tournament casters use them for a reason .

If your not fishing distance then they are pointless.... if your are they can give you extra yards from my experience.  Have you used them yourself & compared between the two ? 

[salokcinnodrog]

8 hours ago, Big Common said:

I'd get the ones that best suited my reels mate.... If you've got largish reels, the 50mm ring might be more suitable. 

I honestly think that unless you are a massive caster then 50mm rings are a waste. More difficult to protect in transport, heavier than more suitable 40mm rings. The larger ring was to deal with a particular line situation on the cast, feeding or funnelling it down with a particular shaped and sized reel.

 

In terms of budget rods, the current Fox range of Warriors, or Shimano Velocities are worthwhile, or even look at Shimano Alivio DX's. 

The DX's are underpriced compared to some other budget rods! The Velocity is a recognised name, whereas Alivio is probably not.

 

Here is something for you, and it really pains me to say it, Shimano on the reel side in the basic Baitrunner and cheaper range is going downhill in terms of quality, compared to say 15years ago, but the rods are coming forward.

[chillfactor]

Spot on Nick... Unless you are using big wide spools , then they are pointless, it just reduces friction which can help with distance nothing else .

When shimano brought out the new range of bait runners a good few years back & stopped the xte & xtea range , the quality in the reels dropped massively , very noticeable .

[fangus15]

If the normal carp angling person had top of the range set of daiwa rods and reels we would be skint and unable to fish because would have any cash for everything else you need. 

I have £3k of gear but didn't pay anywhere near that for it.

[salokcinnodrog]

42 minutes ago, chillfactor said:

Spot on Nick... Unless you are using big wide spools , then they are pointless, it just reduces friction which can help with distance nothing else .

When shimano brought out the new range of bait runners a good few years back & stopped the xte & xtea range , the quality in the reels dropped massively , very noticeable .

You reckon some of that was due to going plastic on the gearing?

The brass gear cogs seemed to last forever, yet newer plastic ones strip very easily, or slide.

 

The reel finishes don't seem as nice now either. 

[chillfactor]

Yes ... & just the overall feel of the reel , I have a selection of xtea's for river fishing / lure fishing & carping , fantastic reels , far better than the recent models .