newmarket Posted March 6, 2015 Report Posted March 6, 2015 Under what circumstances would you consider using a fluorocarbon hooklength ? And which hook pattern , in your opinion , suits best ? Thanks for your tuppence worth salokcinnodrog 1 Quote
hutch Posted March 6, 2015 Report Posted March 6, 2015 Same as CM clear water or if the fish are a little spooky, if the bottom you are fishing over is a bit soft or not spotless clean it can pay to use a slightly more supple fluorocarbon, I generally a D rig style and a SR Arma Point, the out turned eye suits the presentation. Quote
Carpbell_ll Posted March 6, 2015 Report Posted March 6, 2015 I used a fluorocarbon and braid combi rig for all my fishing last year, will do the same this year too, Fox armapoint ssc size 6 hook. I was using a snake bite hook length, but I prefer the fluorocarbon as it stays tidy and the braid makes for a better hair loop. I use it as I think it is one of the more difficult rigs for the carp to blow out. Quote
commonly Posted March 10, 2015 Report Posted March 10, 2015 & i was told not to mention fluro to cm!!!!!! As above although i use no.6 Krank, 3 turn blood, micro swivel on the hook, my method over the suppleness of the braid. I have used IQ2 in the past, but now using Rig marole ( easy to iron out small kinks without the need for steam), they also have braid over fluro, so you can roll up the braid, cut the fluro, push the braid back for the whipping & hair, INSTANT COMBI RIG. I only use fluro now, peace of mind that the rig resets itself should it be disturbed. newmarket 1 Quote
bivvystreet Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 Again I'd use it for spooky fish in clear water and I'd have to go for the chod style hook cos of the out turned eye. I do like a wide gape and if the fluoro was a stiff one I'd be worried about the gape not being wide enough especially when the rig is out there all day. Plus the coots seem to home in on my hook bait every time as well so I really want the rig to reset itself Quote
terryjones Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 I use iq2 about 7 inches long then a braided hair coming approx a inch after the hook which I use a curved shank tied kd style Phil 1 Quote
commonly Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 Again I'd use it for spooky fish in clear water and I'd have to go for the chod style hook cos of the out turned eye. I do like a wide gape and if the fluoro was a stiff one I'd be worried about the gape not being wide enough especially when the rig is out there all day. Plus the coots seem to home in on my hook bait every time as well so I really want the rig to reset itself Good shout, have you tried the Krank choody??? I like the hook so was hoping the chod style one would improve my zig fishing as well. I've got traps for the rats & i wish there was one for the ol' coots n ducks, they're worse than bream Quote
hutch Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 Good shout, have you tried the Krank choody??? I like the hook so was hoping the chod style one would improve my zig fishing as well. A normal chod/SR would be ok for zig fishing but IMO a krank/curve would hold the bait to far away from the hook or hold the bait at the wrong angle for effective hooking. commonly 1 Quote
charlieg Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 Again I'd use it for spooky fish in clear water and I'd have to go for the chod style hook cos of the out turned eye. I do like a wide gape and if the fluoro was a stiff one I'd be worried about the gape not being wide enough especially when the rig is out there all day. Plus the coots seem to home in on my hook bait every time as well so I really want the rig to reset itself I found if you want to use a hook with an in-turned eye like a wide gape with fluorocarbon then tie the rig up and store it under tension on a rig board. When you come to use it it keeps the gape of the hook open rather than closing it up. Quote
bivvystreet Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 I haven't used either of the Krankies Others have said they're a good hook though Quote
bivvystreet Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 I found if you want to use a hook with an in-turned eye like a wide gape with fluorocarbon then tie the rig up and store it under tension on a rig board. When you come to use it it keeps the gape of the hook open rather than closing it up. Good tip matey,nice one Quote
commonly Posted March 11, 2015 Report Posted March 11, 2015 i Use a 2 or 3 turn blood to overcome this, dependant on stiffness Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 Under what circumstances would you consider using a fluorocarbon hooklength ? And which hook pattern , in your opinion , suits best ? Thanks for your tuppence worth Probably only on a clear gravel, clay or sandy lakebed. I see no point in using fluorocarbon on silty waters, the silt may well hide your normal hooklink, and why risk a 'scaring' loop of hooklink as it beds in near the hooklink swivel Quote
Carpbell_ll Posted March 12, 2015 Report Posted March 12, 2015 I think the fluro my of done me wrong on Tuesday, I was surprised I didn't catch. I done so well on a fluro braid combi rig last summer I stuck with it all day. Had a similar first day out last year fishing a coated combi rig for most of the day, only last year I tied up a basic super nova rig for the last few hours and had a nice mirror out, think I’m going to tie a few up with the supper nova for next time. Quote
ouchthathurt Posted March 17, 2015 Report Posted March 17, 2015 I use amnesia 15lb for all my pop up rigs, hinged stiff links. i took my first "hard" water using fluro hooklinks in late 90s. again using amnesia 15lb in clear and bottom baits. i think i had the advantage as everyone else was using supple braided hooklinks. so it was a different presentation. so id use it when no one else is. commonly 1 Quote
Phil Posted March 17, 2015 Report Posted March 17, 2015 I use amnesia 15lb for all my pop up rigs, hinged stiff links. i took my first "hard" water using fluro hooklinks in late 90s. again using amnesia 15lb in clear and bottom baits. i think i had the advantage as everyone else was using supple braided hooklinks. so it was a different presentation. so id use it when no one else is. Brilliant for fishing over a bit of chod. Amnesia combi's have been a fave of mine too. I tend to fish fluoro in long lengths, like 18" plus with small D sections. salokcinnodrog 1 Quote
rosstheangler Posted March 17, 2015 Report Posted March 17, 2015 I use it all the time. Straight through to a no knot size 6 mugga. Simples but, works. Quote
muftyboy Posted March 17, 2015 Report Posted March 17, 2015 (edited) If fishing with boilies over a firm bottom I will use flouro hook links around 12 inches long with a size 4 solar wide gape X, sometimes with a d the same as Phil but sometimes with my own unique presentation which so far I have never seen anyone else use. I'm a proper pioneer me lol. Edited March 17, 2015 by muftyboy rosstheangler and commonly 2 Quote
hawkman Posted March 17, 2015 Report Posted March 17, 2015 I use flouro-combi rigs for the majority of my angling. A good understanding of what you're fishing over is a must when using the larger diameter/ stiffer ones. I use in conjunction with a helicopter rig as it allows the rig to lay out better . It also allows that bit of extra movement if the rig gets picked up and dropped, aiding the all important resetting properties. Anti tangle, being less visible and most importantly the anti eject properties are three more reasons why it is my hooklength of choice. Quote
newmarket Posted March 18, 2015 Author Report Posted March 18, 2015 (edited) Brilliant for fishing over a bit of chod. Amnesia combi's have been a fave of mine too. I tend to fish fluoro in long lengths, like 18" plus with small D sections. I like that Phil . Doesnt anybody use a simple old fashioned D Rig these days ? I wouldn't think twice about using it over a choddy lakebed paticuarly in the margins but everybody seems adamant that they would only use fluorocarbons on hard clear bottoms ???? Edited March 18, 2015 by newmarket salokcinnodrog 1 Quote
hutch Posted March 18, 2015 Report Posted March 18, 2015 I like that Phil . Doesnt anybody use a simple old fashioned D Rig these days ? I do , don't use to the same lengths Phil does but brilliant for presenting a wafter when fishing over smaller particle baits Quote
ouchthathurt Posted March 18, 2015 Report Posted March 18, 2015 I use the d rig with my stiff links. fish them over a wide variety of bottom makeups with no issues that i am aware of. find a stiff link is a good rig to use on new waters as its pretty versitile. Quote
commonly Posted March 18, 2015 Report Posted March 18, 2015 I'm planning on fishing in about a foot of silt in the shallows. A friend says to use braid, i'm thinking a longer fluro hooklink? Not too sure how long though?? Quote
commonly Posted March 18, 2015 Report Posted March 18, 2015 would you use bottom bait or pop up?? Quote
hutch Posted March 19, 2015 Report Posted March 19, 2015 (edited) I'm planning on fishing in about a foot of silt in the shallows Would depend how hard the crust is on the top of the silt, if the water is clearish and you see the spot try dropping a lead on it and seeing how far it plugs in which be my major concern about using a fluro rig in this situation, if the lead plugs into the silt on cast then you are going to be left with a section of the hooklink sticking straight out where the lead has plugged in, personally i would probably use a supernova braided hooklink in this situtation Bait wise a slow sinker/wafter or a snowman should just sit nicely on top of the silt Edited March 19, 2015 by hutch commonly and salokcinnodrog 2 Quote
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