plowmanccfc Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Mine! Simple but deadly! Hi fella have a look at this i try not to use the simple overhand knot when using mono because of the kink of the loop as shown in your picture but if you tie the knot like this it will increase your presentaion loads. Not trying to tell you how to do things just trying to add somethink to your rig? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lessthanphil Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Hi fella have a look at this.... Nice one, that's another knot to add to the armory, hadn't seen that particular one tied before and always relied on figure of 8 or overhand's for tying loops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keenook Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 That's superb! Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ozzyakadrew Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 That no kink loop knot is a top tip and one i will be using next time i do a mono rig thanks for that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leggs007 Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 nice one dan not seen that before Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carefulcarping Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Brilliant Dan, think a few of us have learnt something new there Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plowmanccfc Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Not a problem guy's glad it didnt come accross as a "your doin it all wrong" post just a tip, learnt so much of others on here nice to offer some advice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lessthanphil Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 Not a problem guy's glad it didnt come accross as a "your doin it all wrong" post just a tip, learnt so much of others on here nice to offer some advice Not at all, having that 'kink' in my loops has always annoyed me, but I've never really tried to find a way to avoid it. Guess I've always thought it was 'just part of the deal'. Tied a few this morning for practice and I"m pretty good at it now. Very happy with it! Only thing is, I'm going to have to throw away the 10 I'd already tied the old way as they just look untidy next to the new ones! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 I watched that clip twice and was so impressed that I went to the garage, got some flouro and tried it. Blimey, even an old git like me can achieve the perfect loop. Every day's a school day and Dan is my hero. Today. Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plowmanccfc Posted May 19, 2012 Report Share Posted May 19, 2012 thanks for your words guys just happy it may have improved your rigs ive learnt things off coops, leggs,iambunn and nige just to name a few so glad i can help Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I have just tied up a chod rig using this loop. It is fair to say, I won't be using the figure of eight knot again for a chod. The rig spins better than ever. I was happy with the way I tied them. I saw this clip and it has made them so less fiddly! Took a couple of attempts to get the finishe rig length correct but very, very happy that I watched that clip. Thanks dan xx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougmoon Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I have just tied up a chod rig using this loop. It is fair to say, I won't be using the figure of eight knot again for a chod. The rig spins better than ever. I was happy with the way I tied them. I saw this clip and it has made them so less fiddly! Took a couple of attempts to get the finishe rig length correct but very, very happy that I watched that clip. Thanks dan xx nige i was thinking just that i think ive just found the answer to many problems cheers dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
travisbickle Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 I favour combi rigs...utilising mantis gold and hinging into multistrand....yes multistrand...I still have five bulk spools of the stuff and it is without doubt my preferred hooklength...I never ply it with anything other than natural fish gelatine though...which holds it tight for the cast and for around five mins in the water...at which point the gel dilutes and breaks away leaving the added bonus of trace elements for chemoreception. The only deviation from this is to use a 12"section of merlin threaded through, and held coiled, in a 6"length of fine soft silicone tube in place of the mantis...on a fixed lead ...to act as a spring back...coupled with a tiemco shrimp hook with a running hair....I find this all but impossible for them to eject once taken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ward2k70 Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Nice tip that Dan much better than the figure of eight knot I have always used cheers mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keenook Posted May 20, 2012 Report Share Posted May 20, 2012 Not a problem guy's glad it didnt come accross as a "your doin it all wrong" post just a tip, learnt so much of others on here nice to offer some advice Spot on! A great Guy and a Great forum! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_gardner Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Hi All. Although the perfection loop provides a really nice result,please be aware that it reduces the line BS by around 30% on mono and FCarbon. No problem if you step up the dia of the hook link. Fig 8 or rapala knot much better at approx 10% loss of BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrdevon Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Will be trying that one tonight and if I don't land a 70lber first cast I wont be happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keenook Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Thank's Richard, good to see you again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted May 22, 2012 Report Share Posted May 22, 2012 Hi All. Although the perfection loop provides a really nice result,please be aware that it reduces the line BS by around 30% on mono and FCarbon. No problem if you step up the dia of the hook link. Fig 8 or rapala knot much better at approx 10% loss of BS. I have tested it on the 25lb Fox rigidity and I am happy with the results. Thanks for your input though Richard, I will stick to the figure of eight if I drop down in BS. The lower the diameter of line, the easier it is to use a figure of eight anyway. Cheers mate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
richard_gardner Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 Thank's Richard, good to see you again. Hi KN,and you,hope you are well and still catching. I have tested it on the 25lb Fox rigidity and I am happy with the results. Thanks for your input though Richard, I will stick to the figure of eight if I drop down in BS. The lower the diameter of line, the easier it is to use a figure of eight anyway. Cheers mate. Hi Nige. That should work,25 lb BS should easily compensate for any loss in knot strength with the perfectin loop. I just tested some .35 dia line that goes over 18lb in the tackle box tests.it went at 17 with a figure 8 but i could not get it over 13 with the "perfection"---Its a very neat loop and can be used with confidence so long as you up the BS as you have done.Cheers Richard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plowmanccfc Posted May 23, 2012 Report Share Posted May 23, 2012 I have just tied up a chod rig using this loop. It is fair to say, I won't be using the figure of eight knot again for a chod. The rig spins better than ever. I was happy with the way I tied them. I saw this clip and it has made them so less fiddly! Took a couple of attempts to get the finishe rig length correct but very, very happy that I watched that clip. Thanks dan xx This is the reason i started using it in the first place the chod on the figure of 8 doesnt sit as nice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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