I’ve had a few of the slimy critters on 12mm fish meal pop ups, over a kilo of premier fishmeal bottom baits. I wouldn’t target them, but they don’t half fight! This lake doesn’t have much in the way of silvers, it has a small head of carp that are rarely targeted, not sure what the cats feed on, maybe the silver population is stronger than I think, no one targets them, so how would we know? There’s no cormorants though…