salokcinnodrog

I know Rod Hutchinson do Water Snail Naturalz:
https://rodhutchinson.co.uk/products/naturalz-16mm

Yeah I do think the one's I bought would have caught fish and maybe more than usual when they were fresh with active ingredients.  I just tend to fish match the hatch more often that not and nothing more important than where you put it anyway.

Funny you should say that, on my local park lake it was 3 grains of corn held up by a single piece of fake corn over Vitalin that produced the vast majority of the carp caught. It is a very silty lake and most people tended to fish boilies which sunk into the gunk. The Vitalin and sweetcorn sat on top. I had some very successful sessions, and watched many others fail to catch.
 
Boilies did work, but only in specific places where the bottom is slightly harder.
I think there were or are some specials that really work, but I think many have changed as flavours have been regulated. The Solar Squid and Octopus, original Scopex (not later copies), Monster Crab, Green Zing, or Pineapple really did have something about them, there are still others now that work, but is is finding them.
Add to that, fishing over bait whether groundbait, particles or beds of boilies may make our 'non smelly' baits effective, or even the single bait that the carp think 'here's one I missed earlier'. 

Funny you should say that, on my local park lake it was 3 grains of corn held up by a single piece of fake corn over Vitalin that produced the vast majority of the carp caught. It is a very silty lake and most people tended to fish boilies which sunk into the gunk. The Vitalin and sweetcorn sat on top. I had some very successful sessions, and watched many others fail to catch.
 
Boilies did work, but only in specific places where the bottom is slightly harder.
I think there were or are some specials that really work, but I think many have changed as flavours have been regulated. The Solar Squid and Octopus, original Scopex (not later copies), Monster Crab, Green Zing, or Pineapple really did have something about them, there are still others now that work, but is is finding them.
Add to that, fishing over bait whether groundbait, particles or beds of boilies may make our 'non smelly' baits effective, or even the single bait that the carp think 'here's one I missed earlier'. 

Whilst I should play it down - last 3 trips were successful to a degree and all fish taken on Halibut Pellet wafters that barely smell of anything and very dull.  Proves the point really, who are the special specials attractive to?  US!

Super special mega expensive hookbaits, I wonder how gullible we are? 
I used to keep on buying tubs of pop-ups; strawberry ice cream, cranberry, dairy cream, squid and octopus, tutti-frutti, monster crab, pineapple, and goodness knows how many others. 
The honest answer is I found that the majority of the time that I got takes on 3 of them: squid and octopus, monster crab and my own spiced garlic. Those 3 produced fish as single hookbaits or as the topper on a snowman setup, with other baits like the pineapple and the green zing, tutti-frutti producing occasionally. 
I can't forget one session over winter, for two days 4 takes came on high attract pop-ups, after that the bait that produced was only the food bait tipped with the spiced garlic, and I constantly kept a high attract bait on one rod.
 

couple of low double Christmas commons 

Plenty of similar hookbaits out there apparently, without the constant rants that guy gets away with on one of the many forums available out there 😂

Winter sun found ❤️

Kingy 1st Point - December

Did 4 nights on Bluebell's Kingy from Sunday 30th Nov, only 4 others on so got in the swim I wanted.  First night 4am as the weather front came in I got a take on the middle rod and landed a nice linear.
Same approach as last trip with pellet hookbaits and PVA funnel web bags.
No more action for the remainder but cannot complain in Dec and nothing else came out.
Hopefully back after x-mas for another go.

Managed to get a night in on Thursday last week. The weather was truly horrible and by the time I'd dragged all my gear to the swim and got the rods sorted everything was soaked through. A very uncomfortable night indeed.
I was rewarded for that horrible night by an absolutely gorgeous Friday morning... cold, but a a lovely bright sunny day. By 8AM I'd actually spotted some fizzing so was happy to spend a few hours scaring the carp off trying to find a spot in the area. Alas, it wasn't to be, so with the forecast telling me I'd be getting wet again I headed for home having originally planned to do 2 nights.
Mrs looked worried about me having never seen me come home early in nearly 20 years of being together 🤣
Tbf as I listened to that rain on Friday night I knew I'd made the right decision. Must be getting soft in my old age.
 

I thought this thread might light up with black friday bargains, 
I've gone a little nuts 😂
20kg of AA Baits tropamino base mix 
Fish Liquids,salmon oil, scopex flavour 
Electric caulking gun 
15mm rolling table, cork dust 
And whilst shopping in morrisons @dalej2014made me😂 purchase a stand mixer for £35 (bit of a bargain tbh) 
So it looks like I've become a home roller this weekend. 

Is this View of your bivvy door group ? 
This is my view currently, little gap is the fart extruder, it's pretty windy today 😂
 
 

Update !! Sold the Nash Pod ( a bit unstable ) and got the awesome Rod Hutchinson Rod POD with bag 
More stable and better quality 

Sounds ideal mate.,
I don't get the enthusiam a lot for carp now, probably because of the club water I now fish, it is not what it used to be.
Still like playing about with tactics that are not so trendy now and they do work too.
Think when you reach a certain age it is just making the time on the bank that matters to me

I used to love fishing after a good rain in south or westerly winds.
I think it was my first season on the 2acre Brackens, and after serious rain it would fish it's nuts off. 

No more worrying about leaves...... I spent Saturday building some netted covers. I made 3 in 2.4m x 2m rather than one biggun - A) to give some flexibility in coverage, and B) because a biggun would weigh a tonne. Quite happy with the result and it's nice to know that not one single leaf will be in that pond from now on.
The fish are slowing right down now, winter is defo on its way. It's a bit gutting after such a short space of time to enjoy the pond, but at least I know we're in good shape for next year. The water quality is the nuts, the fish are looking very healthy, all set to grow a British record in the coming years 🤣

 

I'm wary of sugar and salt, but even though glycerine comes from fats being processed, and supposedly needs emulsifying in winter, I found glycerine/glycerol flavours still produced in winter, even compared to the same flavours on ethyl alcohol as the solvent. 
It has made me convinced that glycerine is an attractor in its own right. I'm not sure if any of the bait or flavour specialists have written about it. I'm going to have to try to find out.

A glycerine and sugar syrup is now frequently used to make 'identical' freezer and shelf life boilies. The base mix is the same, but instead of freezing after drying, the baits are given a run around in the bath and then dried again. 
Freezer baits tend to have an attraction 2 or 3 days after thawing as the enzymes, salts and sugars migrate to the surface due to moisture, where I personally think shelf life's have the added instant attraction due to the glycerine. They may both be food baits, the same recipe but the glycerine make them more instant. The two can be used together, or separately.
Shelf life boilies I have found to be harder, and the longer you leave them, the harder they get to the point of drilling.
You can air dry, without freezing the standard bait to rock hard, it will need drilling to go on the hair, but they take on water more quickly and almost explode.
Back in the early 2000's I played around with bait soaks and glugs, with ideas from the original Nutrabaits Bait soaks which were Nutramino and Multimino PPC and added my flavour and essential oil combination; the Peach Nutrafruit was on glycerine/glycerol. The hookbaits after a couple of weeks were rock hard and able to withstand the attentions of small silvers and chub in the lakes and rivers.
I have played with other glugs, often based around Liquid Yeast Extract 
I did play with matching of flavour sprays, but they did need watering down to put in an atomiser bottle.
One thing I did find was neat flavours could be a repellant or create a feeding area or attention area actually away from the hookbait. I can't remember which Tim Paisley book it is in, probably Carp, but both him and Rod Hutchinson came to the conclusion that the flavour was acceptable a distance away from the bait, and it is there that the carp boiled, rolled or attempted to feed.
So use flavours at low level, or avoid them altogether and stick with natural attraction.

Sadly that is the reason why I often have to put post moderation and human verification on new members. It's when new members who immediately start spamming after joining that we get caught out.
 

Sadly that is the reason why I often have to put post moderation and human verification on new members. It's when new members who immediately start spamming after joining that we get caught out.
 

Like @yonny I never fish as well on a social as I do on my own. However like you I have lost interest in carp fishing at the moment, despite having a good syndicate, for a couple of reasons, most of which revolves around my dad.
I'm also slightly bugged by issues that happened around members who only fished when their other syndicate was closed.
I tend to catch when I can do 3 or 4 days, and either setup on fish, or prime an area for them to move onto.
However I do know I love the lake and when things work out I will be back on there aiming to catch both Chestnut and the BC along with any other fish that just happen to come my way.

Like @yonny I never fish as well on a social as I do on my own. However like you I have lost interest in carp fishing at the moment, despite having a good syndicate, for a couple of reasons, most of which revolves around my dad.
I'm also slightly bugged by issues that happened around members who only fished when their other syndicate was closed.
I tend to catch when I can do 3 or 4 days, and either setup on fish, or prime an area for them to move onto.
However I do know I love the lake and when things work out I will be back on there aiming to catch both Chestnut and the BC along with any other fish that just happen to come my way.

I know Rod Hutchinson do Water Snail Naturalz:
https://rodhutchinson.co.uk/products/naturalz-16mm