salokcinnodrog

New lake today...👍

I'll be glad when I've had enough of this...😛🤣

I really don't need to be spending another night in hospital attached to an intravenous drip receiving antibiotics, painkillers and steroids after having a quinsy lanced.
6months into the year and I have been ill for 4 of them... 

I really don't need to be spending another night in hospital attached to an intravenous drip receiving antibiotics, painkillers and steroids after having a quinsy lanced.
6months into the year and I have been ill for 4 of them... 

What a shock that must have been finding out all the reports are gone for every one concerned  🤢

Welcome to carp.com
My personal advice, fish for 'other' fish in waters with carp in.
The way I started carp (and tench) fishing was fishing one float rod for silver fish with maggots, bread or worm, and then a ledger rod to one side with a bigger bait, sweetcorn, luncheon meat or boilie.
I don't know the Surrey area at all but I'm sure that there is a water around that fits the bill.

Over to you:

Hard work this fish, spombed out a bucket of hemp and pigeon conditioner and a pike decided to chase the Spomb and then sat in the margin.
I got the rod sorted and the pike got caught up in the line eventually biting through it and fragging around 50metres which I had to take off. Rerigged and had a frap up and crack-off.
Got sorted again and took another 3 casts with PVA bags and a Multi-rig to get it right.
20lb 2oz
 
We've also been through the stocking lists of the syndicate and found it was stocked 2 years ago at 15lb 8oz and apparently there are no other capture pics by anyone else.

Stopped doing too much on line when my old photo hosting premium account went south years ago 
10 years of hard work vanished over night, when it corrupted my web site and everything.
Lesson learnt but I just don’t bother now.
 

Cheers Barry, 
Looking into the advice to start small shall i say haha. 
You might be right, i think having a basic foundation of what im doing will make sessions better. 
Cheers

Welcome to carp.com
My personal advice, fish for 'other' fish in waters with carp in.
The way I started carp (and tench) fishing was fishing one float rod for silver fish with maggots, bread or worm, and then a ledger rod to one side with a bigger bait, sweetcorn, luncheon meat or boilie.
I don't know the Surrey area at all but I'm sure that there is a water around that fits the bill.

i came to carp after years of being a maggot drowner and as much as i was clueless to begin with i knew some of the basics of fish care and such like. i picked up some cheaper carp rods after using my feeder set up and from there have used this forum and other places to learn rigs and presentation and am now having loads of fun. i reckon if i had started fishing just going for carp i doubt i would have lasted long at it but follow the aboves advice and i reckon you will have both more fun and luck

Welcome to carp.com
My personal advice, fish for 'other' fish in waters with carp in.
The way I started carp (and tench) fishing was fishing one float rod for silver fish with maggots, bread or worm, and then a ledger rod to one side with a bigger bait, sweetcorn, luncheon meat or boilie.
I don't know the Surrey area at all but I'm sure that there is a water around that fits the bill.

For some reason the catch reports have disappeared, I honestly have no idea what's happened.
It might be a freak out on my tablet although I wasn't in that section beyond page3.
 
If you would like to restart with this month we can try to get it up again

Old wives tail mate, they will still eat fishmeal in the winter the problems you can get is becuase the water is colder and there metabolic rate has slowed down, if they chow down on a heavy protein bait it basically can take them alot longer to digest so they wont be as inclined to eat again for several days maybe longer, also combine that with there requirements change when the water is colder so they are looking for fast hits of more energy based/easy digestable baits like a Manilla or Live system rather than a complete food source.

What nick means is 
open Google earth and find pictures of the lake.
you can get various pictures for different weather conditions if you look enough and it might show you the bars gulleys etc.
the. You can use the measuring tool and work out how far these are and then cast to them.

Google can be your friend, especially if you can find a decent Google Earth picture.
I did have a South Lagoon Nazeing picture, complete with every bar and distances marked.
The time to put the marker float about is about an hour before you leave.
The more you learn the better.
 
When it comes to bait, many current food source baits are frequently on a nut or vegetable protein base, which I don't think are as good as the meat or fish based base mixes of 10years ago. 
Vegetable and nut proteins are not complete proteins in as much as they miss a couple of essential amino acids, where fishmeal, meat meal, or yeast based are rich in all essentials, and as such I think are better baits.
 

That's part of the problem, there is so much of carp.com some had to be deleted as it simply couldn't be backed up anymore. I've been picking up and finding threads from 2005! 
So as I have deleted an individual page, somehow it has deleted a whole section.

I do like to move rods about depending on what I see through the session.  On a busy day ticket you often end up fishing 3 on a spot as there's no other choice although that can be good sometimes, but then it's normally one rod outfishing the others, the spot within a spot.

When there is a 'y' in the day.
Just not early mornings, I dislike early mornings...

After going through some of my old posts I've just remembered one of my favourite groundbait bases. Go into your local animal feed supplier and look for Molassed Rabbit Mix, there are various brands available, some are more Molassed than others.
While it is vegetable based, the molasses is an attractor, and it is a good base if you add flake maize and a few pellets. 

After going through some of my old posts I've just remembered one of my favourite groundbait bases. Go into your local animal feed supplier and look for Molassed Rabbit Mix, there are various brands available, some are more Molassed than others.
While it is vegetable based, the molasses is an attractor, and it is a good base if you add flake maize and a few pellets. 

Don't think of prebaiting as a one swim tactic if you are on a food bait. The bait should be thought of as a food and the carp used to finding it anywhere.
 
On Virginia Lake at Earith I prebaited Trigga putting in around a kilo of boilies as I left in a few spots, and knew that I could catch from any swim I went into next time.
On Brackens, despite there being a no catapult or throwing stick rule in place, every boilie had to go in via a PVA stringer or mesh bag, I would cast in probably 100 boilies as I left. Again whichever swim I went into I knew I could catch.
Again Taverham I was putting in the same bait, (along with probably 5 other anglers), so wherever I ended up I knew they liked the bait.
 
On my current lake any prebaiting is to keep spots weed free, again, I'm leaving after putting in a kilo of food source boilies, but I have caught from various swims. 
I don't have any worries about getting back into the same swim every time.
If someone is in the swim I will go somewhere else.
Knowing the lake helps, I know most of the features, and I had the same on Taverham, Brackens and the South lagoon and Earith, with hand drawn or Google maps of the features.

Your bait approach might need to change depending on your fishing.
If you are fishing various waters, then 'attractor' baits might be the best option, but on 'easy' waters where you fish regularly it can be an option.
By attractor baits, pellets, groundbaits, spod mix, and the boilies and pop-ups.
Not every water responds to the same method.
 
Then you have one water you are fishing as a campaign where you are concentrating on catching regularly, getting the fish to concentrate on one bait. This method is slipping out of favour as real food source baits seem to be becoming fewer.
At one point you had Trigga, Activ8, Grange CSL, Monster Squid, Live System, BFM amongst others.
 
My fishing I tend to concentrate on one water, and sort of mix the two approaches of particles/groundbait and food source, and for years I have stuck with this, except on Brackens Pool which was boilie only; mostly because of size, waters ranging from 40 to 500 acres.