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Rig Pic somewhere on here: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=42302 Only thing I've changed is the hook pattern as I haven't been able to get hold of FLB's locally and so moved over to Gamakatsu G-point GP204's and Gardner Muggas

I love the chipped orange tip of an old Porcupine quill myself Lift float method fished slightly overdepth, and if you are quiet enough its easy enough to present the float in and then slide the float up on a single float band to the depth without scaring the fish. I tend to use the mainline to hooklink join (swivel or knot) as the place to put the weight, be it shot or putty.

A chapter that Ken Townley wrote in Tim Paisleys Big Carp shows how rigs are almost irrelevant in a fishing situation. He tied a rig up as he had been shown at Savay, so I presume it was the original Savay Looney rig, the extended hookshank being achieved by a length of tubing, and fished it on his local water. The carp in the lake were able to eject the hook on many occasions, in fact he had less than 50% hook-up. He tried again, by changing the pattern, still not effective. He then went back to his standard set-up, which I believe from memory was a critically balanced bait with the hair extension tag being used to hold the counterweight. That rig landed most of the takes he had on that water, and he had been watching pick-ups to runs and ejection from above the water. Now the KD rig is just the current fashion rig that the magazines are publishing, its slightly different from the knotless knotted rig. Yet years ago when Jim Gibbinson was playing with rigs in an attempt to recreate the effects of the Bent Hook rig that was causing damage he found that by using what has become termed the "Line aligner", he converted far more pick ups than a standard hook tied on with a hair. The Line aligner has faded out of fashion, maybe because the knotless knot is easy to tie and in theory the hook should turn, flip and get a hookhold, especially with the curved shank patterns we are using. Now I fully admit that at the moment the rigs I'm using are far more complicated than the KD rig, strange, considering I'm the person who started the "Complicated rigs" thread , and I will also say , that if you create or tie a rig, then in most cases the reason it often fails is because the feeding situation is not in such a state to get the fish feeding comfortably, as a result many rigs are not working as effectively as they could.

snowman rig I've read is best in the mid winter and I'm going to try it in the summer. The Snowman presentation is good all the year around. It is basically a larger bait on the bottom of the hair (nearest the hook) and a smaller "top" bait; It could be a 6mm pop-up over an 8mm bottom bait, or even a piece of (fake) corn on top of a boilie. Just getting the 2 balanced usually so that the bait isn't fished "popped-up". As for pop-ups themselves it could be that you are trying to fish a bait above the bottom debris like leaves or twigs, or that you are presenting a bait "in their face", be it a hi-attract or food source bait. I'm the same as Jemsue, I have had big fish on pop-ups but because I have gotten a food source bait working prefer to fish bottom (food source) baits or snowman set-up, usually a piece of corn or bright bait as a "sight stop" if I do fish a snowman.

Earith around the Marina's You'll be expected to plenty of your own work, river carping is never as easy as locating them on a lake the stretch towards willingham on that dodgy road? are they on that swac membership that covers block fen/ milton etc...... ?? Dodgy road? The nice one that speeds through the fens, er that will be the one I couldn't tell you what club runs it, I was always on my way to the lakes at Earith

Earith around the Marina's You'll be expected to plenty of your own work, river carping is never as easy as locating them on a lake

When Woodbridge and District had the water I spent a fair bit of time around the lake. It was almost my "bolthole" during the summer along with a mate. We spent many hours fishing and watching the fish in there, and caught a fair few. There were a number of good fish that we have seen that were very rarely put on the bank. You could see plenty of good fish under the surface and even get them feeding under the bank in the "out of bounds", the islands between the pump house and the back bay. In particular there was a very big sandy coloured mirror that would come in close and push most of the other fish out the way. There were also a number of Leney stock, linears etc that were in there, that I have seen caught at over 20lb. Add into that a number of fish that WDAA put in, some commons and mirrors around a few pounds. Yet last year when I was supposed to be working and sorting out a price for putting a fire extinguisher in the pump house I wangled a view (thank you Mr. Bailiff), and saw nothing into double figures. I had a long conversation with the bailiff as well about where the fish went and otters were not the first choice

It wasn't otters who got the majority of the fish From a syndicate last year it has gone back to one of the local clubs (Saxmundham I think)

Simples Get a piece of rigid tubing, 2 soft rubber beads, a tail rubber if you want the "semi-fixed" effect of the rubber holding the tubing onto the lead attachment and a ring swivel. A soft rubber bead at either end of the tubing with the rig on the ring swivel in between the two, (the large ring on the tubing). If you want it held in place on the lead attachment (a quick link clip on swivel works as well as anything), then the tail rubber will hold it onto the swivel and also hold the lead in place I played with the idea years ago, and I mean years ago (at least 10) so have some pictures somewhere, even if they were using some darn awful Nash Outpoint hooks as my idea gathering

For hooklinks I use Drennan Sub Surface Fly Leader, not the most fashionable, but it works Mainline I still haven't got past Daiwa Sensor, and yes, I do make sure that that bit floats

Some very nice comments so far in this thread An honest answer here: Forget about rigs, get confident in what works for you, and a most basic knotless knotted hook with or without a line aligner will hook the majority of fish actually caught in Britain. There is a current fashion being perpetrated by magazines that you have to use the KD rig, the 360 rig, or whatever. Its Bull The thing with rigs is that you need to consider what the lakebed is made up of, and if it helps you, camouflage your hooklink to that lakebed. So for gravel, which is usually a mix of browns, reds, yellows, black etc, a hooklink that matches that As for Lead set-ups, there is always going to be a lot of talk about which is best, but here is a very simple answer for you. If you use a Running lead set-up, just by fishing a tight line you can have a semi-fixed set-up. The tight line prevents the lead from running up the line on a take. Fish that same lead set-up with a slack line, and it becomes a truly running set-up It is also the most user and carp friendly in the event of a break-off. The lead can be ejected from the mainline, and if you are using the split run rings, then in the event of a snag up the lead can be ejected with no problems, leaving you with a direct line to the fish.

SWP is not an easy place any time of the year. Hintlesham may give you more chance of a fish, but is a lot smaller and the fish aren't as big for the same money. http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=16535 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=46857

Taverham Mills has the specimen lakes which Day Ticket anglers can night fish on the Mills lake itself, then I think as a day only there is Costessey Pits No1 and No2. All part of Anglian Waters Taverham Mills complex, but check on that 01603 861014. If you wish to Google it, I'm certain it will come up, also I think the url link is in the Norfolk Waters in the UK Where to fish Stickies

Well I'm not going to give away the location of where a couple of 40lb fish have come from now am I Po... Post... No I can't do it

What are the 2 main rivers in Norwich? Wensum and Yare. There you have it There is actually a thread in the past where there is a lot of information I keyed in with locations of some of the River fishing around the Broads area

Some of the best pop-ups straight from the tub are actually some of the worst for taking on water when pierced, and as for what Beanz says, cork ball can be such a mess. The quick water ingress can get the paste to fall away from the cork ball as well. I don't bother with the bait floss method of tying them on, I simply use a fine mono to tie them on with, which I have found can cut into the skin, almost cauterising itself and the pop-up enlarges around it. I've had pop-ups stay buoyant for days doing that Uni knot in the nylon to create the loop, insert pop-up, pull loop tight, and job done. I do the Uni knot whether I am tying pop-ups onto ring or if it is a continuation of the knotless knot with braid as my hooklink.

Don't want to confuse you further after reading so many posts but...... If I was going to go for a rig to use anywhere it would definately be the simple running rig described in this thread and linked to a few times. Inline leads give good hooking potential but I only use them on hard bottoms like clean gravel or sand. In light weed or silt an inline is more likely to drag the end of the hooklink into the silt, potentially leaving the rest of your hooklink sticking up off the bottom. If you use the running rig you are more likely to get good presentation as a pear lead will bury into the silt bottom first, hopefully leaving your hooklink flat along the bottom so the carp won't see it. The thing with inline leads is that for Semi-fixed lead set-ups they offer the best hooking potential, however they don't work on all waters, and some carp have learnt how to deal with them I definitely wouldn't use an inline lead over gravel, too much chance of the lead forcing the swivel into the gravel and risk damaging the hooklink and hooklink knot I would however use an inline in weed as it is less likely to tangle than a pendant set up A running inline lead is not likely to work as planned, it only takes a tiny bit of grit or weed to jam up the lead and prevent it running. Did you then have the fish on a running set up or on a semi-fixed set-up? For running leads, I still resort to a large run ring stopped from hitting the hooklink swivel knot by a bead or tail rubber. Mine or Gaz's links are all still valid I reckon I don't think that that is a fair comment to make. Nutrabaits, Richworth Mainline etc have been tested, and proved to have worked and caught fish, and as a (boilie) starting point is probably the best place to start. Not everyone has access to the bait knowledge or companies who can knock out a good food source boilie at £6 a kilo.

I'm with Keenook on this, Waveney Valley is a nice set of lakes, you've got Marsh, Yew Tree, Heartsmere as well as the lettered series C, D/E. Plenty of fish to go for, all have good 20's, the chance of a 30, and in a couple, the possibility of a 40 Alternatives in Norfolk, Taverham Mills would be my other choice. There has been a lot written in the past on the forum about Cobbleacre (hit the search facility, i'm feeling lazy ). However I will give you a swim by swim description on Taverham Mills as well as a few other possible on this link: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=46858 Also have a look at Suffolk Water Park

Started as a "wicked" comment, didn't expect to get quite so much feedback, I should know better I cleaned up as much as I could without taking away from the thread as some of the posts are covering both topics. Anyway, here is a PVA link that may be useful: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=27183

Right, I have copied and pasted all the leadcore posts onto this thread: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?p=509296#509296 This thread is about Solid Bagging, and it will stay that way. Any more leadcore replies can go onto that thread above, or I will lock this thread again as I did while I did the C&P

And therein lie 2 problems in themselves The use of leadcore in carp fishing and then the use of that name of manufacturer Leadcore: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32598 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=39794 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=38886&highlight=acf http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=47006&highlight=acf I used the "it won't work with leadcore" as there is absolutely no safe reason to use leadcore as a leader in carp fishing Why not? If used in the wrong hands it can be dangerous but so can everything... Tubing.. Leaders etc..... I use it and know alot of people that use it and have had no problems so i dont really think you can say that... I know from reading your posts that you personally dont agree with using it and thats fair enough but its clear from what other people have said that they are just jumping on the "bandwagon" and agreeing with you. ? I used to use leadcore, helicopter and pendant set-ups, did a lot of experimentation and No there is NO safe way to use a Leadcore leader in any of them. Even if you think that it is safe, it takes only a small kink to trap a bead or rig, even on a heli set-up, which means that a fish is trailing it around, rig and leader. As an example, I trapped a 3oz lead in a kink formed by casting and hitting the water, and swung it around my head. The lead could not pull free. The added weight of a leadcore leader trailing prevents even a barbless hook being ejected. If you are stupid enough to use a pendant or inline leadcore set-up then you are increasing the danger factor, the leader could snap-off ABOVE the leader and then a fish is automatically stuck trailing the lot. The experiments weren't just playing and trying it on the bank. I was casting the leadcore and rigs into 4foot of water at various ranges from just metres out to 70metres. Leadcore does NOT lay totally flat along the lakebed, it does NOT merge into the bottom. It is more visible than standard mainline. I also had to retrieve fish snagged up on a heli leadcore set-up in freezing cold water up to my chest that had managed to swim around a branch. Sam asked about Solid Bagging and also whether he needed to use tubing or leader. I added the not with leadcore as a "wicked" comment (hence the icon) and then gave links to Leadcore and Leader threads when someone queried the use of leadcore with PVA bags, hoping that if someone decided to query the leadcore comment that they would add onto one of those threads As for solid bags, they can be used with Helicopter, Inline or Pendant set-ups. Best way I have found with inline and pendant leads is hookbait in corner inside the bag, add a bit of rig, put in a bit of filling, rest of rig, more filling, then add lead to top inside the bag. It tidies it up nicely with a lick and stick, although you do want the lead centrally. With Helicopter set-ups, filling in bottom of bag, add lead, a little bit more filling, then hook onto side of bag and then lick and stick

And therein lie 2 problems in themselves The use of leadcore in carp fishing and then the use of that name of manufacturer Leadcore: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32598 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=39794 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=38886&highlight=acf http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=47006&highlight=acf I used the "it won't work with leadcore" as there is absolutely no safe reason to use leadcore as a leader in carp fishing

Lick and stick the bag up. It will lick and stick around standard mainline, leader or tubing It doesn't work with leadcore though

Fish to what you find is right for your fishing. As Stoogi has says there is much difference between the same size hook in various brands and patterns, there is not really a universal hook size guide. Its not just carp fishing that will make you think about the hook size you use, I often use size 8's for roach fishing, be it with sweetcorn or bread as bait, and for carp and chub I will if need be go up to a size 2. A size 2 in a chubs mouth with a large lobworm, slug or bit of bread easily gets lost, and a carp can easily suck in the same size worm on that hook, or even a large piece of crust The main reason for the size of hook we use is more to match the bait size to, although with hair rigging we can make that more difficult to think about.

Is this any use? http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=46858