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No stainless in sight... just 12 year old banksticks, alarms circa 1980, rods circa 1965, reels approx 1966... you've all seen my old gear... but just to make a point that its the last foot of ones endgame that does the damage and too many preconceptions about rig mechanics severely limits ones options... tight lines chaps

Yeah... doubles... 20lb 1oz light lead, (2/3rds of an ounce short rig, snowman presentation... 2 x swanshot 4" hooklink, whole prawn bait (no hair rig).... yup.... another 20... (23lb 6oz) stop generalising.... and be a bit more open minded...!!!

That's just mint @chillfactor. I have watched fished sucking baits up from afar, along with twigs, chod, all manner of rubbish, they manage to filter it all somehow. I believe a lot of the rare'n's, those fish that hardly ever come out, simply feed differently and the feeding behaviour described above is just one example of that. There is huge variation in the mechanics of how individual fish feed.

I completely agree. I gave up debating the benefits of hook sharpening on forums some time ago. Anyone that needs convincing that a sharper hook is a more effective hooker needs their head tested imo.

Cracking fish & hopefully still in the land of the living 😎 How you caught them on short rigs & no stainless though..... two words spring to mind " Carp God " 😁

I have been experimenting with light leads and short hooklengths... match fishing started me thinking about the rig mechanics of the Method feeder... and how only 20grms of feeder plus a few grams of pellets and a 4" link with a QM1 size 12 were leading to carp of mid doubles... henceforth I have been using less than an ounce and only 2/4" hooklinks... with good results on pressured club waters... another option I have tinkered with is using just lightly nipped shot above the knot loop for casting weight so that the bait is almost freelined (obviously stalking style, & not distance fishing) and ditching the hair rig, just using hooked prawns cockles and mussels where boilie fishing has turned the fish wary... Rig mechanics is always an emotive subject... If you find summat that works for you, good on you.... share it or keep to yerself.. your choice...!!! but we shouldn't decry what other folks use just because it doesn't suit your own needs or style of fishing👍😎

Really? I used a short 4inch rig to cast around 30 yards to an tree lined undercut corner margin. I wanted, even needed a short rig to avoid tangles, from going in the trees. It had only been in the water 5minutes.

Cheers mate... 👍

Getting the gear ready to head out thursday, just have to nip to the ballot box first and cast my MEP vote 😂 just don't mention the B word 💶

This is the fish in question .... look at the Hoover on it ! Lol

Was a cracking fish .... sadly no longer with us, along with all the other fish in that lake. Otters !!!! 🤬