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Just my 2peneth but I think all carp feed differently,so different rigs will react differently to how they feed.

Good job i dont fish the crAy infested lakes then, im not criticizing them at all, just stating that most of the rigs are variants of the same rig, multi, pop up, swivel on hook with bead etc the hook has the same angle Sent from my LG-H955 using Tapatalk

If you have a rig that works why would you want to change it bud? Stick to what catches you fish fella. If you start changing things for the sake of it you can end up ruining your chances and not knowing why.

Amen to that! German rigs, Ronnie rigs, Seesaw rigs....... add a different type of bait screw and let's call it a Bertie rig. Just tie a hook on the end of your line, freeline a lump of luncheon meat, a worm, some sweetcorn or a lump of breadflake into the margins at first light, tighten up a tad and watch your line where it enters the water. No rig mechanics and will fool the wariest of carp.

I'v done well on long hairs over the years, even on pop ups, one of my best sessions came while using a 2inch gap between hook and bait with the hook 3inches of the deck, all were hooked solid and bang dead centre , and one had the bait cut off.....this I guessed was because the bait had been taken back into the teeth.............now a bit of a ramble as its hard to write what I think, but, the mass (?) of the bait is affected far greater when blown out then the mass of the hook ( or is it drag?? something anyway), so when the bait goes in further with the hook, the hook stays in longer(milliseconds) until the bait is ejected which I believe gives a better chance for the hook to turn and take a hold. One thing that I know for sure is that while using long hairs I hardly ever have hook pulls.

It is the longer the hair the more freedom of the bait to go into the mouth. A short hair won't allow the bait the freedom to be sucked in, so the hook doesn't even go into the mouth. If the hair is long enough the hook will follow it into the mouth, then with that hook following the carp 'realises' a foreign object is attached or the bait has something with it it shouldn't, so attempts to blow that foreign object out, giving the chance for the hook to pr ick into the lip. The hair needs to be long enough for the hook to be taken in in the first place. You have actually picked up on another point .If they are feeding on close together particles, pellets or groundbait, then you can get away with a shorter hair, whereas boilies that are further apart you will likely need the hair to be longer. You can actually watch fish in tanks or ponds, if you put a baited hook in there, after a few hookings, the carp will suck the bait from further away, so lengthen the hair and you can continue to hook them. Now imagine that in a big lake, big as in fishable size, and you can see how the hair needs to be changed to suit. Rod Hutchinson wrote about most of this in The Carp Strikes Back, so it's not new Carp don't suck in with the same force each time; each food reacts differently, size, density and the lakebed will change how much pressure to move it is required. Sweetcorn is a light bait, so will require less suck than an 18mm boilie. That 18mm boilie on a firm sand or clay lakebed will need less suck than an 18mm boilie sat in silt. Other particles, hemp or tares are pretty dense and 'heavy', or larger particles like chick peas, maple peas or maize are almost boilie size. Steve then picks up another point, carp feed differently. Some carp are suckers and blowers, others pick certain foods up, and some truffle, trough or dig the lakebed, especially when feeding on bloodworm or maggots in silt. (Deeper areas that have been cleaned down). A pop-up rig will need to be considered as to whether the carp is clamping down on it, or sucking the bait in from a distance.

When the going gets really, really tough I turn to bog standard off-the-reel mono. Super supple, super subtle, no one else doing it. What more could you ask for?

Don't think the Korda stuff is that supple personally and definitely won't be paying Danny to tie my rigs lol. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Nick, please elucidate, just for the thicko's out their (and me ) if the carp sucks the bait into its mouth it will suck with almost the same force every time (imo) therefore the bait should stop in the same place every time, back of the mouth or just in etc. now comes the confusing bit, surely if the hair is long IE distance from bait to hook point the hook will be toward the front of the mouth, thereby shortening the hair would put the hook further into the mouth and not closer to the lip? surely too the bait on a short hair would place the hook toward the throat and not the other way round as you state above? i have read many comments that state it the way you have but i just can not for the life of me grasp the concept... help!!

How on earth ?