natty Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 On a couple of the waters I am fishing mono is the only hooklink allowed. I am currently just using the same line as I have got on my reel for the hooklengths (12lb Fox Soft Steel Mono). It has worked ok so far, but I am wondering if there are any better monos to use for my hooklengths (12lb would be ideal). Any suggestions would be great. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclectic Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 You can use Flourocarbon hooklinks I would of thought?! I use ESP's Ghost, and its served me well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_b Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 You could use flurocarbon which could help hide the hook length a little better...just make sure you use the corresct knots Just out of curiosity why have they put a ban on braid hooklengths? I can undestand why they might put a ban on the mainline.] maybe its something I am missing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmb1415 Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 You could use flurocarbon which could help hide the hook length a little better...just make sure you use the corresct knots Just out of curiosity why have they put a ban on braid hooklengths? I can undestand why they might put a ban on the mainline.] maybe its something I am missing some waters round here totally ban it ,which includes hooklinks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclectic Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 In small diamaters it can and will cut the carps mouth, braid that is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_b Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Cheers for the info. Was aware of the issues around using braid as a mainline, but never really thought of the issues around using it as hook length having never had a problem myself. Mind you I never fish too close to snags and tend to play my fish as lightly as I sensibly can, so wether this helps in the less likelyhood of damage? Will certainly now take it on board when using braids as hook length. Nothing worse than fish damage. Thats fishing.......a constant learning curve cheers guys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eclectic Posted September 12, 2008 Report Share Posted September 12, 2008 Dont get me wrong. I use braid hooklenghts of no less that 15lb. But I think thats why some fisheries ban its use, as it will cut a carp if used less than 10 pounds. Or atleast I believe it to be that way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted September 20, 2008 Report Share Posted September 20, 2008 Is Fluorocarbon acceptable? Or does it have to be Mono? I got some Ultima Power Plus in 12lb and Berkeley XL in for Mono hooklinks, and for floater fishing. In the Fluorocarbon I got some of the Carp-r-Us Clearwater in 12lb. I know that a fair number of the anglers who use Mono for hooklinks do use the same line as their Mainline Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
true_carp_king Posted September 21, 2008 Report Share Posted September 21, 2008 You can use Flourocarbon hooklinks I would of thought?! I use ESP's Ghost, and its served me well i second that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charlieg Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 have a look at some fluorocarbon by seaguar or riverge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluebirdjones Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 I would recommend Korda IQ, hasn't let me down yet, I've used both 12 and 15lb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Malc 1950 Posted September 22, 2008 Report Share Posted September 22, 2008 Amnesia or mono for me.Haven't used braid for ages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jake5 Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Is Fluorocarbon acceptable? Or does it have to be Mono? I got some Ultima Power Plus in 12lb and Berkeley XL in for Mono hooklinks, and for floater fishing. In the Fluorocarbon I got some of the Carp-r-Us Clearwater in 12lb. I know that a fair number of the anglers who use Mono for hooklinks do use the same line as their Mainline I had loads of fish on mono hooklinks at the start of season,then the runs started slowing down,switched to flurocarbon esp ghost since then ive had 4 fish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nash_gadgeteer Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Korda IQ certainly works for me, because most others are fishing braid or coated braid, and by changing to mono can make it harder for the fish to get rid of a rig, and hence more fish on the bank. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zander1 Posted October 28, 2008 Report Share Posted October 28, 2008 siltstar/ clarke mono Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ouchthathurt Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 i had exellent results with amnesia. i have also used ESP ghost to good effect. i have ultima powercarp fluro mainline in 12lb, that is pretty thin and good for hooklinks. one 1000m bulk spool was good to respool both baitrunners with plenty left over for hooklinks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest hairymary123 Posted December 12, 2008 Report Share Posted December 12, 2008 I still have a spool of Sunset Amnesia in my box. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chrispayne Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Cheers for the info. Was aware of the issues around using braid as a mainline, but never really thought of the issues around using it as hook length having never had a problem myself. Mind you I never fish too close to snags and tend to play my fish as lightly as I sensibly can, so wether this helps in the less likelyhood of damage? Will certainly now take it on board when using braids as hook length. Nothing worse than fish damage. Thats fishing.......a constant learning curve cheers guys By playing fish lightly, I imagine that the fight last longer? IMHO this increases mouth damage and the chance of a braided hook length slicing their mouth. I have seen braid slice a carps mouth quite badly, the slice was right in the scissors, the braid in question was Drennan micro braid. This is one of the reasons I stepped away from braided hook lengths and onto Magic touch mono, although this doesn't suit every situation. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Cheers for the info. Was aware of the issues around using braid as a mainline, but never really thought of the issues around using it as hook length having never had a problem myself. Mind you I never fish too close to snags and tend to play my fish as lightly as I sensibly can, so wether this helps in the less likelyhood of damage? Will certainly now take it on board when using braids as hook length. Nothing worse than fish damage. Thats fishing.......a constant learning curve cheers guys By playing fish lightly, I imagine that the fight last longer? IMHO this increases mouth damage and the chance of a braided hook length slicing their mouth. I have seen braid slice a carps mouth quite badly, the slice was right in the scissors, the braid in question was Drennan micro braid. This is one of the reasons I stepped away from braided hook lengths and onto Magic touch mono, although this doesn't suit every situation. Drennan Micro Braid is one of the worst for slicing as it is so thin in diameter, and very "rough" and abrasive to the touch. Now you know why I do my Garage tests so I won't use tackle that may damage fish. There was also another hooklink braid that I found dangerous to use as well from the Nash stable. Anyone who uses a Mainline Braid as a hooklink without checking what it can do deserves to have it wrapped tight around their anatomy and then played like a Carp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
welder Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Cheers for the info. Was aware of the issues around using braid as a mainline, but never really thought of the issues around using it as hook length having never had a problem myself. Mind you I never fish too close to snags and tend to play my fish as lightly as I sensibly can, so wether this helps in the less likelyhood of damage? Will certainly now take it on board when using braids as hook length. Nothing worse than fish damage. Thats fishing.......a constant learning curve cheers guys By playing fish lightly, I imagine that the fight last longer? IMHO this increases mouth damage and the chance of a braided hook length slicing their mouth. I have seen braid slice a carps mouth quite badly, the slice was right in the scissors, the braid in question was Drennan micro braid. This is one of the reasons I stepped away from braided hook lengths and onto Magic touch mono, although this doesn't suit every situation. Drennan Micro Braid is one of the worst for slicing as it is so thin in diameter, and very "rough" and abrasive to the touch. Now you know why I do my Garage tests so I won't use tackle that may damage fish. There was also another hooklink braid that I found dangerous to use as well from the Nash stable. Anyone who uses a Mainline Braid as a hooklink without checking what it can do deserves to have it wrapped tight around their anatomy and then played like a Carp So "Goodwill to all Men" never quite entered your mindset, Nick? I'm joking, as I'm sure you know I'm a fan of flourocarbon myself, Amnesia in particular. However, some of the coated braids that are meant for use as hooklinks are as safe as we could hope. I have a spool, in black, can't remember the brand and I'm certainly not going out to the garage at this time of night to find out, which I use to make silt rigs and it's benign. Feel free to wrap me up in it and play me like a carp, but could we wait for warmer weather, please? Ian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted December 26, 2008 Report Share Posted December 26, 2008 Cheers for the info. Was aware of the issues around using braid as a mainline, but never really thought of the issues around using it as hook length having never had a problem myself. Mind you I never fish too close to snags and tend to play my fish as lightly as I sensibly can, so wether this helps in the less likelyhood of damage? Will certainly now take it on board when using braids as hook length. Nothing worse than fish damage. Thats fishing.......a constant learning curve cheers guys By playing fish lightly, I imagine that the fight last longer? IMHO this increases mouth damage and the chance of a braided hook length slicing their mouth. I have seen braid slice a carps mouth quite badly, the slice was right in the scissors, the braid in question was Drennan micro braid. This is one of the reasons I stepped away from braided hook lengths and onto Magic touch mono, although this doesn't suit every situation. Drennan Micro Braid is one of the worst for slicing as it is so thin in diameter, and very "rough" and abrasive to the touch. Now you know why I do my Garage tests so I won't use tackle that may damage fish. There was also another hooklink braid that I found dangerous to use as well from the Nash stable. Anyone who uses a Mainline Braid as a hooklink without checking what it can do deserves to have it wrapped tight around their anatomy and then played like a Carp So "Goodwill to all Men" never quite entered your mindset, Nick? I'm joking, as I'm sure you know I'm a fan of flourocarbon myself, Amnesia in particular. However, some of the coated braids that are meant for use as hooklinks are as safe as we could hope. I have a spool, in black, can't remember the brand and I'm certainly not going out to the garage at this time of night to find out, which I use to make silt rigs and it's benign. Feel free to wrap me up in it and play me like a carp, but could we wait for warmer weather, please? Ian Sorry Ian, I'm trying not to laugh too much . Some of those Braids are very "sharp" and cut quite easily, like you I prefer the Coated Braids or Merlin/Silkworm. I find the very thin ones quite worrying for use as Hooklinks. I think the Coating may stop it hurting too much, and yes wait for warmer weather, Goodwill to all men? Me? Never Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
r_b Posted December 30, 2008 Report Share Posted December 30, 2008 Hi, Informative information. Just to mention when I said about playing the fish in I meant I didnt yank the fish in on far to heavy gear (probably didnt word it to well first time, sorry) and I would never make a fight last longer than necessary. I also never have or would use mainline braid as a hook length, I have only ever used hook length braids and coated braids by well known manufacturers .........although the above has now definetly made me think twice about using even these It is really good to see information like this available to us all as I am sure there are many people out there who are fishing completely unaware of the damge they could potentialy cause..........my only worry is are these the kind of people who would go to the trouble of doing a bit of research before trying different rigs, materials and so on Keep up the good work fellas as I am sure a lot of people benifit and if that saves one fish from being damaged then it is all worthwhile. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorsey Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 We have had to ban uncoated braided hook lengths because of the damage that it started to cause and it seemed that the quicker the fish were landed the more damage was caused. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
noknot Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Braid for mainline is a different animal to hooklenth braid, and as so should NEVER be used for hooklenths! As it works like a serated knife! Years back we used Dacron with no damage caused, then when silkworm first came out, I found it superb! Used it in 25lbs BS as it was"flat" rather than round(which will cut) in smaller diameters! Having said this I have reverted back to "bolt rigs" 80's style running lead with a float stop up the line set up and flouro hooklinks(semi stiff) for 99% of my fishing, and is awsome! Two beeps, then a single toner! In 25 year of Carp angling I can say I have never "ripped up" a Carp! Maybe Due to useing ballenced Tackle and the correct tools for the job in hand, ie: Not useing 3.5lbs TC in the margins but a 1.25lbs TC, you can still land big Carp on these and apply the same presure if need be, and also enjoy a real fight from a Carp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonezy Posted December 31, 2008 Report Share Posted December 31, 2008 Scierra C'thru(same as Prologic XLNT Spectrum) for a fluorocarbon. Currently use it in 25lb, for the boom section of my hinged stiff rig and it knots very well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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