emmcee Posted January 21 Report Posted January 21 13 minutes ago, jh92 said: Hi mate I've got a burco, but I don't have a basket for it yet 🤦♂️🤣 It's took me just over an hour to do them all on the cooker 🤣 if I had to guess probably 8kg of bait 🤔 When I made my own bait, I used an old landing net mesh instead of a basket in my burco. jh92 1 Quote
jh92 Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 11 minutes ago, emmcee said: When I made my own bait, I used an old landing net mesh instead of a basket in my burco. Appreciate it mate, I'll try and get something sorted for when I next roll, quite a nice burco, think it's like a 65l one but wide instead of tall 👍👍 emmcee 1 Quote
jh92 Posted January 21 Author Report Posted January 21 8075g of bait 👍 got 7633 in boilie, 442 in paste 👍 Gone for 18mm dumbells 👍 even though it rolled well, I'm wondering if I added a little too much basemix, next time I'm thinking I might add like 100 - 200g less and let it rest a bit longer 👍 salokcinnodrog, yonny, hutch and 2 others 5 Quote
jh92 Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 Been prepping some particles over the last couple days, freezer full, some in the fridge and two full buckets over 👍🤣 elmoputney 1 Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 On 21/01/2025 at 21:34, jh92 said: 8075g of bait 👍 got 7633 in boilie, 442 in paste 👍 Gone for 18mm dumbells 👍 even though it rolled well, I'm wondering if I added a little too much basemix, next time I'm thinking I might add like 100 - 200g less and let it rest a bit longer 👍 That looks good. 1 hour ago, jh92 said: Been prepping some particles over the last couple days, freezer full, some in the fridge and two full buckets over 👍🤣 Tidily packed, makes life easier and reduces freezer burn. Freezers work best when full, fridges work best with least full. As much as I like a freezer full of particles, the ease of preparing means I don't really need a load done upfront, whereas boilies I do. jh92 1 Quote
jh92 Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 (edited) 27 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said: That looks good. Tidily packed, makes life easier and reduces freezer burn. Freezers work best when full, fridges work best with least full. As much as I like a freezer full of particles, the ease of preparing means I don't really need a load done upfront, whereas boilies I do. I might have to adjust the basemix a little or boil the hookbaits for a bit longer, I find they take on water quite quick and breakdown, ideal in the spod mix but as a hookbait I'm not so sure. After being on the rig for a couple hours you could squeeze them and they just go to mush lol. I've only done it as I'll be on the bank pretty much all the time for the next few weeks so just being able to nip home and grab a few bags will be ideal 🤙I've got bags of tigers, pigeon conditioner, maize and hemp in the freezer ready to go 👍👍 Edited January 27 by jh92 elmoputney and salokcinnodrog 2 Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, jh92 said: I find they take on water quite quick and breakdown, ideal in the spod mix but as a hookbait I'm not so sure. After being on the rig for a couple hours you could squeeze them and they just go to mush lol. How about just making some harder hookbaits? The quick breakdown for freebies is a big advantage. elmoputney and jh92 2 Quote
hutch Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Quote After being on the rig for a couple hours you could squeeze them and they just go to mush lol. Quote How about just making some harder hookbaits? The quick breakdown for freebies is a big advantage. Agree with Nick, I would look at making a 1 egg mix of hookbaits with 5-10% of either whey gel or blood plasma that should firm them right through leaving your hookbait in place whilst the feed is breakingdown jh92 1 Quote
jh92 Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, salokcinnodrog said: How about just making some harder hookbaits? The quick breakdown for freebies is a big advantage. 26 minutes ago, hutch said: Agree with Nick, I would look at making a 1 egg mix of hookbaits with 5-10% of either whey gel or blood plasma that should firm them right through leaving your hookbait in place whilst the feed is breakingdown Thanks for the replies guys 👍 I will get some bits ordered 👍is there anything I could do as a quick fix for a session tomorrow? I have left over semo, soya flour, corn flour, wheatgerm if it helps? Or could I boil and dry them for longer? Quote
hutch Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 You could nip down the supermarket and pick up some egg white powder i would use this at 10% (or 10g to 100g), this should harden the outer skin of the bait and take them long to break down. salokcinnodrog and jh92 2 Quote
jh92 Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 11 minutes ago, hutch said: You could nip down the supermarket and pick up some egg white powder i would use this at 10% (or 10g to 100g), this should harden the outer skin of the bait and take them long to break down. Appreciate that mate will see what I can get 👍👍 Quote
elmoputney Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 17 minutes ago, jh92 said: Thanks for the replies guys 👍 I will get some bits ordered 👍is there anything I could do as a quick fix for a session tomorrow? I have left over semo, soya flour, corn flour, wheatgerm if it helps? Or could I boil and dry them for longer? Use alternate hookbaits, you must have some kicking about 👍 Quote
jh92 Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 1 hour ago, hutch said: You could nip down the supermarket and pick up some egg white powder i would use this at 10% (or 10g to 100g), this should harden the outer skin of the bait and take them long to break down. Got this from tesco mate, will work it out for a 2 egg mix to test tomorrow 👍 1 hour ago, elmoputney said: Use alternate hookbaits, you must have some kicking about 👍 I really like to be using the same hookbait as to what I'm feeding lol, I've got some essential cell hard hookers for backup though mate 👍 elmoputney 1 Quote
hutch Posted January 27 Report Posted January 27 Quote Got this from tesco mate, will work it out for a 2 egg mix to test tomorrow 2 satchets of that to 100g will do it as a stop gap, it wont firm them through but will give the baits a hardened skin so will slow the water leaking into the hookbait jh92 1 Quote
jh92 Posted January 27 Author Report Posted January 27 42 minutes ago, hutch said: 2 satchets of that to 100g will do it as a stop gap, it wont firm them through but will give the baits a hardened skin so will slow the water leaking into the hookbait Brilliant mate, a 1 large egg mix works out to be able 135g of basemix I believe but i think i made it a little too dry last time , so will try 1 medium egg, 10g egg white powder and 100g basemix 👍 just gonna roll them into balls with my hand 👍 Quote
Old_Skool_Carper Posted Friday at 07:08 Report Posted Friday at 07:08 On 11/01/2025 at 02:36, Ron Jeremy said: So by preparing a nut ingredient, in a different way, it made a bait that obliterated all other baits? Yeah right o 🤣 I discovered sour dough bread 3 decades ago, have NEVER gone back to eating what i would call... 'cotton-wool bread' lol several years ago i thought I'd used the sour dough bread making process on my 'nut /yeast bait' (the nut is NOT used by bait companies as too expensive) ...results have been superb on just that little tweak, that incidentally cost ZERO! 👌 emmcee 1 Quote
emmcee Posted Friday at 10:29 Report Posted Friday at 10:29 3 hours ago, Old_Skool_Carper said: I discovered sour dough bread 3 decades ago, have NEVER gone back to eating what i would call... 'cotton-wool bread' lol several years ago i thought I'd used the sour dough bread making process on my 'nut /yeast bait' (the nut is NOT used by bait companies as too expensive) ...results have been superb on just that little tweak, that incidentally cost ZERO! 👌 Exactly, if you know where to look or think outside the box you can make your bait totally different to the norm and its a huge edge . The bait firms pretty much use Tiger nut , be that flour or meal and peanut meal, be that blanched or roasted and yet there are so many more nut varieties out there. Quote
Big Davo Posted Sunday at 21:35 Report Posted Sunday at 21:35 Hi, I do like the AA baits stuff, ive found them to be decent too. I moved away from their Boilies and started using the ID3 Range from Incrediblebaits last year though as I first seen it at Stanley Villa Fishery in their shop. Its a really smelly Fishmeal and very dark in colour which was ideal for the shallow venue I fish as helps a bit with reducing the amount of birds diving down at eating all the bait. https://incrediblegroup.co.uk/shop/bait/boilies/i-d-3-boilies-shelf-life/ Quote
hutch Posted Sunday at 22:37 Report Posted Sunday at 22:37 Quote Exactly, if you know where to look or think outside the box you can make your bait totally different to the norm and its a huge edge The best baits are nearly always the ones that are a nightmare to roll and generally have a bit more going on attraction wise, baits that go through machines normally have had to take a hit somewhere on ingredients to get them to roll nicely salokcinnodrog, emmcee and jh92 3 Quote
jh92 Posted yesterday at 09:44 Author Report Posted yesterday at 09:44 New bait done well, multiple tench and my first carp from the complex at 27lb 14oz 👍 emmcee, salokcinnodrog, framey and 1 other 3 1 Quote
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