The shockleader to mainline split

[elmoputney]

Just now, Highy said:

What you use ? 3,4,5 turn ?

4 on the leader and 5 on the Mainline 

4 turn on the grinners for the hybrid lead clips for the new leaders I've just made 😲

Kids are at brownies for a bit I'm enjoying my downtime with some prep work 😂

[framey]

The albrite knot whips up say 7 turns and back down say 5 like a mahin knot 

the trick is to keep the whippings tight not spread out up the line and make sure you go back through the loop the same way.

the real difference is a mahin knot has the overhand knot in the leader and the albrite just tucks through a loop.

 

 

not tried this myself but I have just thought about 

half a mahin knot and half grinner 

knot the leader and grinner on the mainline 

if it works I’ll call it a grinnin lol

 

i also use another knot that is a cross between a grinner and a blood knot 

I’ve never had that come undone.

 

Edited August 31, 2023 by framey

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On 30/08/2023 at 14:48, Highy said:

Just done mine with a 5 turn back to back grinner knot...30lb Korda Basix Spod braid to 50lb Arma Kord.

 

On 31/08/2023 at 11:34, elmoputney said:

Back to back grinner, seems to be a winner, none have slipped yet anyway. Framey did also suggest this one so thanks 👍

 

On 31/08/2023 at 11:25, elmoputney said:

It might be worth trimming a bit off and also checking your line clip isn't damaging the line 

Just redone all my spod braid, took it all off and re-wrapped it back on, the Braid that didn't see day light, is now onto (fresh). Redone the attaching knot, 4 turn backnto back, 5 turns onto reel, then half a rod drop to spomb.

You can see we're the line clip frayed the braid.

 

 

[salokcinnodrog]

On 28/08/2023 at 13:23, elmoputney said:

find it better whatever the distance tbh, this may sound blunt as an answer not my intention but using a shock leader takes out the shock/spring out of the spod on casting as it takes the brunt of the pressure/load and tension of the initial cast so even at shorter ranges I find it helps with accuracy /consistency and all that stuff and if people see 4-5 turns of shock leader they think you are the bizness 😎

 

On 28/08/2023 at 09:09, elmoputney said:

I don't use straight through braid on my spod rod now, I lost a couple of marker floats and spombs that way (fox exocet poop braid) now I always use shock leader and actually haven't lost one that wasn't the aerlex's self closing bail arms fault since but I've always got those back because they tend not to get that far, they usually badooosh right in front of me 😜

 

 

On 28/08/2023 at 12:49, Highy said:

I use Korda Basix Braid 30lb straight through, only 1 crack off so far, but only fished upto 12 wraps so far with it, if need further would a leader be needed ?

Strangely enough, I have actually just retrieved a small Spomb attached to braid straight through. I've not looked at how much braid, it's attached to a football sized bundle of weed. Looks like whoever smashed off at the clip and couldn't retrieve it.

 

That is my exact reason for a shockleader

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4 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said:

 

 

Strangely enough, I have actually just retrieved a small Spomb attached to braid straight through. I've not looked at how much braid, it's attached to a football sized bundle of weed. Looks like whoever smashed off at the clip and couldn't retrieve it.

 

That is my exact reason for a shockleader

50lb Shockleader to 30lb Braid...

[kevtaylor]

On 28/08/2023 at 12:49, Highy said:

I use Korda Basix Braid 30lb straight through, only 1 crack off so far, but only fished upto 12 wraps so far with it, if need further would a leader be needed ?

a crack off with 30lb braid going only 12 wraps, that's not right mate, should never snap when just flicking them out.  Even on a massive chuck it shouldn't crack off at 30lb.  My mate had some very dodgy whiplash, snapped like cotton, very weird, faulty!  Whereas my whiplash lasted a silly amount of years no issues ever

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8 minutes ago, kevtaylor said:

a crack off with 30lb braid going only 12 wraps, that's not right mate, should never snap when just flicking them out.  Even on a massive chuck it shouldn't crack off at 30lb.  My mate had some very dodgy whiplash, snapped like cotton, very weird, faulty!  Whereas my whiplash lasted a silly amount of years no issues ever

I've redone my spod setup, put the Braid on spare spool with the unused at the top now, added 50lb shockleader....but I've also ordered some 60lb Daiwa J Braid, it was on offer.....

Now I'm using 30lb Korda Basix to 50lb Korda Arma Kord, 4 turn B2B grinner.

 

 

[Carpbell3]

I got the sonik spod reel this year with braid, I have snapped off three times spombing a small water, still got the spomb.The line really don't like hitting the clip, needs slowing down just before the clip.

Thinking I will spool some 50lb braid to replace what snapped, should do it without having to bother with a leader.

 

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1 minute ago, Carpbell3 said:

I got the sonik spod reel this year with braid, I have snapped off three times spombing a small water, still got the spomb.The line really don't like hitting the clip, needs slowing down just before the clip.

Thinking I will spool some 50lb braid to replace what snapped, should do it without having to bother with a leader.

 

A mate got it also, the Sonik Spod reels are loaded with Green 30lb Spider Wire.

He's used it a few times so far and is happy (so far)

[Carpbell3]

Just now, Highy said:

A mate got it also, the Sonik Spod reels are loaded with Green 30lb Spider Wire.

He's used it a few times so far and is happy (so far)

I was spombing large size spomb and hemp out fine with boilies.

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1 minute ago, Carpbell3 said:

I was spombing large size spomb and hemp out fine with boilies.

He's mainly sloppy spodded with pellets so far...

[kevtaylor]

38 minutes ago, Highy said:

I've redone my spod setup, put the Braid on spare spool with the unused at the top now, added 50lb shockleader....but I've also ordered some 60lb Daiwa J Braid, it was on offer.....

Now I'm using 30lb Korda Basix to 50lb Korda Arma Kord, 4 turn B2B grinner.

 

 

Looks sound, I'm using 30lb whiplash to a 60lb braided leader made from pike braid I had in the garage.  Usually it would have been 50lb Armacord 👍

[elmoputney]

15 hours ago, Carpbell3 said:

I got the sonik spod reel this year with braid, I have snapped off three times spombing a small water, still got the spomb.The line really don't like hitting the clip, needs slowing down just before the clip.

Thinking I will spool some 50lb braid to replace what snapped, should do it without having to bother with a leader.

 

I found that braid a bit rubbish tbh seemed to snap way too easily. I also tried thicker braid and it destroyed the sonik spod reel, it couldn't handle reeling it back in 

[salokcinnodrog]

25 minutes ago, elmoputney said:

I found that braid a bit rubbish tbh seemed to snap way too easily. I also tried thicker braid and it destroyed the sonik spod reel, it couldn't handle reeling it back in 

A spod tends to be 'heavier' on the retrieve than a Spomb because you are reeling in water and the spod is often under water where the Spomb skips or penguin walks on top most of the time.

I am using a Shimano Aerlex on my Spod rod, and a Shimano Beastmaster 7000 on my marker/spod rod. Both stand up to the abuse.

The thinner braids may be a problem with crack-offs as well, it took a few attempts for me to find a decent one; Angry Fish 0.36mm 50lb 4 is what I use, for the marker/spod rod and pike fishing. Over 3years the colour has faded, dye worn off, but the braid is still strong.

[salokcinnodrog]

On 04/09/2023 at 11:00, ... said:

 

 

Just redone all my spod braid, took it all off and re-wrapped it back on, the Braid that didn't see day light, is now onto (fresh). Redone the attaching knot, 4 turn backnto back, 5 turns onto reel, then half a rod drop to spomb.

You can see we're the line clip frayed the braid.

 

 

 

On 27/09/2023 at 11:09, salokcinnodrog said:

 

 

Strangely enough, I have actually just retrieved a small Spomb attached to braid straight through. I've not looked at how much braid, it's attached to a football sized bundle of weed. Looks like whoever smashed off at the clip and couldn't retrieve it.

 

That is my exact reason for a shockleader

 

On 27/09/2023 at 16:16, ... said:

I've redone my spod setup, put the Braid on spare spool with the unused at the top now, added 50lb shockleader....but I've also ordered some 60lb Daiwa J Braid, it was on offer.....

Now I'm using 30lb Korda Basix to 50lb Korda Arma Kord, 4 turn B2B grinner.

 

 

 

On 27/09/2023 at 16:19, Carpbell3 said:

I got the sonik spod reel this year with braid, I have snapped off three times spombing a small water, still got the spomb.The line really don't like hitting the clip, needs slowing down just before the clip.

Thinking I will spool some 50lb braid to replace what snapped, should do it without having to bother with a leader.

 

 

On 28/09/2023 at 08:25, salokcinnodrog said:

A spod tends to be 'heavier' on the retrieve than a Spomb because you are reeling in water and the spod is often under water where the Spomb skips or penguin walks on top most of the time.

I am using a Shimano Aerlex on my Spod rod, and a Shimano Beastmaster 7000 on my marker/spod rod. Both stand up to the abuse.

The thinner braids may be a problem with crack-offs as well, it took a few attempts for me to find a decent one; Angry Fish 0.36mm 50lb 4 is what I use, for the marker/spod rod and pike fishing. Over 3years the colour has faded, dye worn off, but the braid is still strong.

Yet another Dot spod I've found attached to just braid crack-off, although this one was just the fractured knot on the link clip.

I did cut the knot off as I used the spod for putting out some particles at short range. It's now in the spod compartment of my rucksack.

I still use an Amnesia shockleader, and have no problems with the mono leader at any range.

Last week it landed an annoying swan that swam through the line...

Poxy thing I cast out and watched this swan swim straight for where I was baiting up, and as the Spomb hit the water the swan tried to empty it and swam through the line