framey Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 What about orange tutti lol crusian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 I keep it to exactly same flavour (Manilla) , but in 2 colours, White and Yellow, and have 1 VERY VERRY Pink Smelly fishy 1, (Krill, Crab n Squid). Carpmaster and crusian 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 On 26/10/2020 at 17:33, Gaffa22 said: Yes indeed one mans nectar is another mans poison. Flavours are a very subjective area, and it’s difficult to accurately compare one against the other as there are too many variables. Baitwise I just use what gives me confidence, I was brought up with Rod Hutchinson flavours and ingredients, as started carping in the late 70’s I dont use flavours in my main loose feed boilies, a good base mix should have all the attraction needed. So the only baits I use with artificial flavours are a few pop ups and wafters I buy, as it’s difficult to make them as good as you can buy off the shelf. I'm of rather different views on flavours and essential oils, I found some very good combinations, and that iso-eugenol could improve the attraction of a number of baits. The obvious essential oil that got lots of note was a proper genuine full Black Pepper oil. Some baits were a whole lot better with the addition of flavours, The Biollix, not bad, but my Cinnamon EO with Peach Nutrafruit knocked it even better. Then we have Enervite Gold, with Julian Cundiff's favourite Strawberry and Cream Elite with Bergamot EO. Plain Enervite Gold with Multimino never caught as much as the flavoured version. Another combination I played with was Eucalyptus EO, Cherry Elite and 2drops of Iso-eugenol. As a bait it smelt like your chemist's sore throat remedy, it had its own Tune... Boy did it work! Taking some of these combinations and trying others, some complete pop-ups I bought, (some same flavours or similar from various manufacturers), not all were the same in terms off effectiveness. Nutrabaits Pineapple N-butyric (plain yellow) were as effective as Mainline Fluoro Yellow Pineapple. Dynamite's Fluoro Pineapple were not as good as Solars Pineapple, in terms of fish caught. My own Garlic Oil and Megaspice pop-ups have produced fish from various waters. I gave the recipe to a bait company, they hated making them, they stink, yet on a water just down the road from that company, locals couldn't get enough of them, they produced loads of fish, and now I make my own, continue to do so. Maybe I should come up with a catchier name and they'd sell... I go through my bait bag now and find I seem to have got a collection again: Monster Crab, KMG in base mix and Fluoro colours, a pale pink Raspberry and Black Pepper, little yellow Aniseed and Bunspice and my own Spiced Garlic (is that catchier?) Some are for merely using as top knot on a snowman bait, some as I heard a pale pink pop-up is a catcher on my lake, some to match the baiting and feeding and obviously one because I have complete faith in it. crusian 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: I'm of rather different views on flavours and essential oils, I found some very good combinations, and that iso-eugenol could improve the attraction of a number of baits. The obvious essential oil that got lots of note was a proper genuine full Black Pepper oil. Some baits were a whole lot better with the addition of flavours, The Biollix, not bad, but my Cinnamon EO with Peach Nutrafruit knocked it even better. Then we have Enervite Gold, with Julian Cundiff's favourite Strawberry and Cream Elite with Bergamot EO. Plain Enervite Gold with Multimino never caught as much as the flavoured version. Another combination I played with was Eucalyptus EO, Cherry Elite and 2drops of Iso-eugenol. As a bait it smelt like your chemist's sore throat remedy, it had its own Tune... Boy did it work! Taking some of these combinations and trying others, some complete pop-ups I bought, (some same flavours or similar from various manufacturers), not all were the same in terms off effectiveness. Nutrabaits Pineapple N-butyric (plain yellow) were as effective as Mainline Fluoro Yellow Pineapple. Dynamite's Fluoro Pineapple were not as good as Solars Pineapple, in terms of fish caught. My own Garlic Oil and Megaspice pop-ups have produced fish from various waters. I gave the recipe to a bait company, they hated making them, they stink, yet on a water just down the road from that company, locals couldn't get enough of them, they produced loads of fish, and now I make my own, continue to do so. Maybe I should come up with a catchier name and they'd sell... I go through my bait bag now and find I seem to have got a collection again: Monster Crab, KMG in base mix and Fluoro colours, a pale pink Raspberry and Black Pepper, little yellow Aniseed and Bunspice and my own Spiced Garlic (is that catchier?) Some are for merely using as top knot on a snowman bait, some as I heard a pale pink pop-up is a catcher on my lake, some to match the baiting and feeding and obviously one because I have complete faith in it. That garlic and mega spice one sounds lovely but garlic spice would be a better name lol Edited November 16, 2020 by framey Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusian Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 18 hours ago, elmoputney said: Personally I just use whatever, and try different things on all rods, will maybe switch another over if I catch on one, but not too bothered about flavours being the same or different colours, if they work as they should, and stand out a bit I'm happy I want my hookbait to be noticed, I will usually have a matching pop up, and a banana one and usually a brown black pepper + proper job to start with, I think you have 3 different rods try 3 different things, one thing I have noticed I can't find a favourite hookbait that seems to really stand out above all the others, it's usually the one you least expect that rattles off 😏 9 hours ago, elmoputney said: This is dynamite colour explanation of what to use and when may help you 👍 Thanks , Elmo , helpful as always . 😃 elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 2 hours ago, crusian said: Thanks , Elmo , helpful as always . 😃 Could be a curveball to hide the truth 😉 But I'm not that clever and I don't really know that much 😅 crusian and yonny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusian Posted November 16, 2020 Report Share Posted November 16, 2020 8 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: I'm of rather different views on flavours and essential oils, I found some very good combinations, and that iso-eugenol could improve the attraction of a number of baits. The obvious essential oil that got lots of note was a proper genuine full Black Pepper oil. Some baits were a whole lot better with the addition of flavours, The Biollix, not bad, but my Cinnamon EO with Peach Nutrafruit knocked it even better. Then we have Enervite Gold, with Julian Cundiff's favourite Strawberry and Cream Elite with Bergamot EO. Plain Enervite Gold with Multimino never caught as much as the flavoured version. Another combination I played with was Eucalyptus EO, Cherry Elite and 2drops of Iso-eugenol. As a bait it smelt like your chemist's sore throat remedy, it had its own Tune... Boy did it work! Taking some of these combinations and trying others, some complete pop-ups I bought, (some same flavours or similar from various manufacturers), not all were the same in terms off effectiveness. Nutrabaits Pineapple N-butyric (plain yellow) were as effective as Mainline Fluoro Yellow Pineapple. Dynamite's Fluoro Pineapple were not as good as Solars Pineapple, in terms of fish caught. My own Garlic Oil and Megaspice pop-ups have produced fish from various waters. I gave the recipe to a bait company, they hated making them, they stink, yet on a water just down the road from that company, locals couldn't get enough of them, they produced loads of fish, and now I make my own, continue to do so. Maybe I should come up with a catchier name and they'd sell... I go through my bait bag now and find I seem to have got a collection again: Monster Crab, KMG in base mix and Fluoro colours, a pale pink Raspberry and Black Pepper, little yellow Aniseed and Bunspice and my own Spiced Garlic (is that catchier?) Some are for merely using as top knot on a snowman bait, some as I heard a pale pink pop-up is a catcher on my lake, some to match the baiting and feeding and obviously one because I have complete faith in it. That's a lot of helpful info. , Nick . It's taken some careful reading to make sure I've taken it all in . 😁 salokcinnodrog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 I make my own bait an pop ups this time of yr I turn to the tutti fruiti or pineapple I don’t know why but these two flavours have been working for yes an still catch carp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 24 minutes ago, Carpmaster said: I make my own bait an pop ups this time of yr I turn to the tutti fruiti or pineapple I don’t know why but these two flavours have been working for yes an still catch carp If just like to add green into the mix from sprulina carp luv it but birds can’t really find it the confusing looks on the coots an tuftys when they pop up to the top with nothing in the beak is quiet amusing 😂 crusian and salokcinnodrog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted November 18, 2020 Report Share Posted November 18, 2020 This blooming thread nearly made me buy some more pop ups last night Luckily I resisted, I went out to the garage, still have tonnes it's fine, 😁 Got some orange and pink ones to take again now 😂 So that gives me orange, pink, white, brown, beige, yellow, red, should have it covered crusian and salokcinnodrog 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crusian Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 On 18/11/2020 at 06:06, Carpmaster said: I make my own bait an pop ups this time of yr I turn to the tutti fruiti or pineapple I don’t know why but these two flavours have been working for yes an still catch carp I'll put my orange Tutti pops up back in my bait bag , thanks . 👍 😁 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted November 22, 2020 Report Share Posted November 22, 2020 Brown, pink and yellow, don't work at the moment 😂 crusian, Carpmaster, yonny and 1 other 2 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 On 18/11/2020 at 06:35, Carpmaster said: If just like to add green into the mix from sprulina carp luv it but birds can’t really find it the confusing looks on the coots an tuftys when they pop up to the top with nothing in the beak is quiet amusing 😂 A bait I was working on years ago for a food source was green, I found seagulls had problems seeing them after impact. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted November 23, 2020 Report Share Posted November 23, 2020 20 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said: A bait I was working on years ago for a food source was green, I found seagulls had problems seeing them after impact. Green seems to sort the bird life out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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