bluelabel Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 Just seen the ads for the new Delkim EV-D looks good... does anyone know if they can be fitted with the Gardner Dongles to work with the recievers...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 No reason why not as it has the 2.5mm jack plug socket . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted February 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 I thought the 2.5mm socket was for the Delkim illuminated bobbins and you need a 3 or 3.5mm jack for the dongles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) I am still quite flabberghasted delkim can't just make all there alarms have a direct remote receiver these days? Edited February 20, 2020 by elmoputney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 5 minutes ago, elmoputney said: I am still quite flabberghasted delkim can't just make all there alarms have a direct remote receiver these days? They do a remote version Elmo. oscsha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 No the dongles are available in 2.5mm versions , if your not sure then probably best sending Gardner (atts) a message . No reason that i can see why the won't work though . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, elmoputney said: I am still quite flabberghasted delkim can't just make all there alarms have a direct remote receiver these days? They could but then from a business point of view there is no progressive ladder for the customer to climb . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, oscsha said: They could but then from a business point of view there is no progressive ladder for the customer to climb . Exactly. They do two versions. The TXI (remote version) @ 135 quid, and the EV (none remote) @ 60 quid. If they made the EV remote it would be a TXI! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted February 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 I was looking at dipping a toe into the world of Delkim at some point in the future, should my current alarms go pear shaped (although my ATT's are still going strong after nearly 7 years) and I thought that the EV-D would be a way forward, as I have an ATTX receiver, I figured a pair of dongles wouldn't bee too hard on the pocket Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, yonny said: Exactly. They do two versions. The TXI (remote version) @ 135 quid, and the EV (none remote) @ 60 quid. If they made the EV remote it would be a TXI! So it basically costs the same and you have to buy the dongles from a competitor 😣🤔 I just dont get why anyone who didn't already own the dongles, would buy them? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted February 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, elmoputney said: So it basically costs the same and you have to buy the dongles from a competitor 😣🤔 I just dont get why anyone who didn't already own the dongles, would buy them? Some folks who only do day sessions, or sit on top of their rods but want the Delkim alarms I'd suppose would look at them, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 3 minutes ago, elmoputney said: So it basically costs the same and you have to buy the dongles from a competitor 😣🤔 I just dont get why anyone who didn't already own the dongles, would buy them? The ev-d is aimed at the customer who doesn't want a receiver , Blue has the Att receiver so it makes sense to buy the dongles . yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 I still do nights on some waters with out a receiver , your ears should be tuned so you don't deep sleep anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 9 minutes ago, elmoputney said: I just dont get why anyone who didn't already own the dongles, would buy them? Guys that want Delks but don't want a receiver! Every firm does a none remote version of their alarms dude! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted February 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 16 minutes ago, yonny said: Guys that want Delks but don't want a receiver! Every firm does a none remote version of their alarms dude! except ATTs... you have to have a receiver as there's no speaker in the head... that said, they do other alarms with the speakers so bit of a moot point yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 27 minutes ago, bluelabel said: except ATTs Correct. I did hear on the grapevine they're currently working on some new ones that might be an ATT with speaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 58 minutes ago, yonny said: Guys that want Delks but don't want a receiver! Every firm does a none remote version of their alarms dude! I get that not everyone wants a receiver and even if you have one you may not use it but nowadays surely every new alarm should be directly combatible with a receiver at the very least Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 22 minutes ago, yonny said: I did hear on the grapevine they're currently working on some new ones that might be an ATT with speaker. Hope they do...I think they will be better 👍 yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 18 minutes ago, elmoputney said: I get that not everyone wants a receiver and even if you have one you may not use it but nowadays surely every new alarm should be directly combatible with a receiver at the very least But then everyone would be paying for remote capability they might not want. That's an extra 75 quid per alarm for the Delks😲 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 2 minutes ago, yonny said: But then everyone would be paying for remote capability they might not want. That's an extra 75 quid per alarm for the Delks😲 Which is my point it seems a bit of a con,I don't think it has to be that expensive most cheaper alarms have remote capabilities these days, why can't Delks? yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 8 minutes ago, elmoputney said: Which is my point it seems a bit of a con,I don't think it has to be that expensive most cheaper alarms have remote capabilities these days, why can't Delks? They could if they wanted to , but why would they when they can make more money doing it the way they are . They are afterall a business out there to make money . yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted February 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 21 minutes ago, yonny said: But then everyone would be paying for remote capability they might not want. That's an extra 75 quid per alarm for the Delks😲 and add £147 for the receiver....!!!! That's a mighty large markup for a couple of pence worth of circuitry and solder... but then whenever has a high end tackle firm not taken the chance to make a buck....?? and as you say... it is a business.... Edited February 20, 2020 by bluelabel addendum yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, elmoputney said: Which is my point I don't get you point at all mate🤣 18 minutes ago, elmoputney said: most cheaper alarms have remote capabilities these days, why can't Delks? So your point is Delks are too expensive? End of the day you can pick up a none-remote alarm for a tenner, or you can go for the top shelf Delks at 60. If you want remote you can get cheapo alarms or you can get Delks at 135 a pop. It's the same with all the top end alarms - Fox, Nash, Nevs, etc etc. You can always go budget - JRC, Prologic, Wychwood etc. No one is forced to buy top end stuff. Edited February 20, 2020 by yonny carpyian, oscsha and kevtaylor 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted February 20, 2020 Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 (edited) 22 minutes ago, yonny said: But then everyone would be paying for remote capability they might not want. That's an extra 75 quid per alarm for the Delks😲 and add £147 for the receiver....!!!! That's a mighty large markup for a couple of pence worth of circuitry and solder... but then whenever has a high end tackle firm not taken the chance to make a buck....?? and as you say... it is a business.... Edited just now by bluelabel Oh dear , as with all things the final retail price is far from the cost of parts , good luck to any one with the balls to start a business ! Edited February 20, 2020 by oscsha yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted February 20, 2020 Author Report Share Posted February 20, 2020 28 minutes ago, oscsha said: 22 minutes ago, yonny said: But then everyone would be paying for remote capability they might not want. That's an extra 75 quid per alarm for the Delks😲 and add £147 for the receiver....!!!! That's a mighty large markup for a couple of pence worth of circuitry and solder... but then whenever has a high end tackle firm not taken the chance to make a buck....?? and as you say... it is a business.... Edited just now by bluelabel Oh dear , as with all things the final retail price is far from the cost of parts , good luck to any one with the balls to start a business ! Hey if I was in their shoes I'd be doing the same thing....🤑 difference is, I'm on the other end of the line (literally) we all moan about the cost aspect at some point or another, whether its yer ticket, rods, bait, alarms, or whatever... it doesn't stop us wanting things a bit cheaper does it...?🤣👍 yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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