ryan_b Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Hiya guys Im swaying towards getting a carbon throwing stick, i like the idea of the fox r20 and the ridgemonkey ones as they have a loading port, would you recomend any of these? Ryan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 No mate. They are the heaviest two carbon sticks on the market buddy - mainly due to those ports. Best will depend on what you're using it for. What kind of distance do you need? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan_b Posted October 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Its mainly for speed of baiting up and i would say 100 yards max on the water i am fishing at the minute. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 100 yards is a long way with a stick mate. Even the very best distance sticks will struggle past 120ish. For distance the best are the ACA and the Daiwa - but they are pricey. Gardner do a decent one called the Propella I think. Decent for distance. Avoid the Scorpion - it's a short range stick. For value is has to be the Diem one - it's cheap as chips and half decent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryan_b Posted October 3, 2019 Author Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 Cheers i will have a look at a few others and see, im worried about the build quality too as i am quite heavy handed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 6 minutes ago, ryan_b said: im worried about the build quality No need mate, it's just carbon tube. It's the design that makes the difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 The ridgemonkey one is total pants my mate bought one took it out once... absolute pants. better off getting the Harrison or the diem one that gets good reviews yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted October 3, 2019 Report Share Posted October 3, 2019 I don't use a lot of korda gear but the easy stick is the best I've used. Tried other more expensive ones that friends have had but the easy stick is better imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 On 03/10/2019 at 20:31, muftyboy said: I don't use a lot of korda gear but the easy stick is the best I've used. Tried other more expensive ones that friends have had but the easy stick is better imo. At shorter range and with no significant baiting levels a plastic stick is absolutely fine (although I found the Korda jobby goes brittle and snaps after a couple of years regularly exposed to the elements). At longer range and with heavier baiting levels a decent long carbon stick is immeasurably better than plastic imo. I bought the ACA carbon stick after spending a week in France baiting heavily at range with the Korda stick - it killed me - my arm/shoulder took a month to recover. Same venue/tactics with the ACA carbon stick the following year was a doddle. Like anything it's a case of right tools for the job. Carbon is defo better but only in the right situation imo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted October 7, 2019 Report Share Posted October 7, 2019 Just now, yonny said: I bought the ACA carbon stick In other news I damaged it in transit on Friday. You can't get them any more so I'm absolutely gutted. I taped it up and it's lasting so far but long term I need a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 I still use a Cobra stick myself, my Ace is many years old, well used and irreplaceable. If I ever killed it I would really struggle to find a direct replacement. Look after your throwing stick, keep it clean, if you go carbon, keep it safe and protected. Yonny mentions distance, it takes practice, perfectly round, very hard baits that don't split, and a bit more practise. I am good for around 100metres, and I do spend time practising on the reservoir. I have tried a number of sticks, so here are my findings: You will need to find a straight or curved stick that suits you, not all are the same. I struggle with excessive curves, but cannot use a totally straight stick. I could not use a Korda Eazi-stick, they were awful. I needed two hands to use it to be able to come from a directly overhead motion, to keep the baits going straight. I can use a big heavy stick, but I do start to notice it after a kilo or so. 3 kilos is my limit! Since the demise of Cobra and being bought out by Nash Tackle you would think that Nash would make the best sticks, but sadly not, you will be looking at Fox Rangemaster, Cygnet Sniper in plastic, or for lightness, carbon for me it would be the Gardner Pro-pela. The loading port is a fad, it adds weight, slows the stick down in the air. Next point, cheap plastic, Cobra's were or are heavy, but it is decent quality plastic, it was built to last, not all sticks are now. Many while the shape is right, are of poor quality plastic that bends, cracks or even just gets marked and appears as a white line where the plastic has been damaged. Carbon, brilliant, very light, but take very good care of it. It is an expensive item to break. That means keeping it in a good strong tube, not just a plastic case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 Roughly what range in wraps ? are the different types of throwing sticks useful to please ? I am going to be doing some extreme distance fishing soon possibly even over 18.5 wraps 😮😏😀 and maybe I will need s stick for that ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 20 is about manageable giving a favourable wind and a good size boilie elmoputney and yonny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 5 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: Since the demise of Cobra and being bought out by Nash Tackle you would think that Nash would make the best sticks, but sadly not You're dead right. The Nash Cobra is absolute rubbish. It goes brittle in sunlight very quickly and snaps just near the loading port. It happened to 2 of mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
emmcee Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 I've got the straight harrison stick and the diem stick. Harrison one is naff in my opinion (not sure if they do a curved one now?). As for the diem one, I found mine to have ridges internally which in my opinion lead to baits splitting. If you want a carbon stick then my mate has the century one and swears by it. He fished a lake in france and was getting 20mm baits 140yds to an Island (it was still most of the time with occasional light winds aiding him). He also has I think a Frank Warwick stick (ACA stick) which he also rates highly. yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 10 minutes ago, emmcee said: Frank Warwick stick (ACA stick) It's by far the best but you can't get them any more. I just broke mine last week, damaged in transit. Proper wounded. I'm looking at the Century and the Daiwa as a replacement. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted October 8, 2019 Report Share Posted October 8, 2019 12 hours ago, elmoputney said: Roughly what range in wraps ? are the different types of throwing sticks useful to please ? I am going to be doing some extreme distance fishing soon possibly even over 18.5 wraps 😮😏😀 and maybe I will need s stick for that ? I can get 2/3 boilies at a time around 80metres in anything other than a headwind. A stick does have an advantage in that you can put in around 5 boilies in at a time rather than just one, so it can be faster than a catapult! Straight or curved, you have to find what works best for you. I can use straight and slightly curved, but get some of the more severe curves and I am baiting the margins or my feet... elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpepecheur Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 I use a slightly different approach to a throwing stick. oscsha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 I like the innovation and the diy nature , but a catapult will achieve the same result . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpepecheur Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 Yes you are right, I just enjoy experimenting. I use a cataplt for short distances and the fustibal for longer range. I have yet to find the need to fish at extreme range, even on big waters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 15 minutes ago, carpepecheur said: the fustibal for longer range Is that really you then? I thought it was a wind up lol. oscsha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpepecheur Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 I have to confess it that was me, although I was a few years younger then. I do have a bit of a reputation for eccentric ideas but very occasionally it pays off in spades. Here is an earlier version of the same thing. J yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted October 9, 2019 Report Share Posted October 9, 2019 It's got Korda written all over it Quickly patent it Danny F maybe reading this yonny and carpepecheur 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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