boliecrazy69 Posted August 7, 2016 Report Posted August 7, 2016 Hello lads. So ive decided to change my set up and brought back avid 2tonne flurocarbon leader on 0.41mm I've tied it to my main line via a Albright knot. How long do you think I need to have the leader it's self? And do I need to stretch it out? Many thanks Quote
hutch Posted August 8, 2016 Report Posted August 8, 2016 If its any use to you I use about 4 feet, and generally most of the materials on the market straighten (the good ones anyway) by just running your fingers a couple of times down the length of leader, also remember to clean the leader ever so often as they pick up muck which makes then more visible than something like tubing. Quote
boliecrazy69 Posted August 8, 2016 Author Report Posted August 8, 2016 Cheers mate. I am toying with the idea. I mightn't stick to tubing to be fair. Thanks mate Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted August 9, 2016 Report Posted August 9, 2016 If you can fish without a leader you will be fishing more safely, especially if there is any weed or snags present I honestly think that in most cases the line at any range above 30 or 40metres is running along the lakebed anyway. Also with fluorocarbon it requires regular cleaning, and after a fish or two may require changing. Lengthwise, as short as you can get away with, so if you think two feet is long enough to hide the line then drop to that. If you are using it as a shock leader then go as long as 12feet, or your casting drop (the lead in line with rod spigot) and 4or5 turns on the reel. I much prefer tubing over leader, until this year I have stayed away from leaders for probably 9 years I reckon, fishing mono straight through either naked or with around 30-40cms of tubing and a run ring for the lead. Quote
chillfactor Posted August 9, 2016 Report Posted August 9, 2016 Had some good results using 4-5 ft of tiger line for my chod fishing a season or so back on some tricky waters. And you certainly didn't have to replace it after a couple of fish . It was out lasting the mono behind it . If I use chods again at some point it will be with a length of tiger line with out doubt. Quote
yonny Posted August 9, 2016 Report Posted August 9, 2016 remember to clean the leader ever so often as they pick up muck which makes then more visible than something like tubing. What do you guys use to clean your fluoro leaders? Quote
hutch Posted August 9, 2016 Report Posted August 9, 2016 Chemical free baby wipes, which are essentially just water based. I am sure the line wipes some companies do are just these re hashed. yonny 1 Quote
yonny Posted August 9, 2016 Report Posted August 9, 2016 I am sure the line wipes some companies do are just these re hashed. Agree 100%. Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted August 9, 2016 Report Posted August 9, 2016 Had some good results using 4-5 ft of tiger line for my chod fishing a season or so back on some tricky waters. And you certainly didn't have to replace it after a couple of fish . It was out lasting the mono behind it . If I use chods again at some point it will be with a length of tiger line with out doubt. Tiger Line seems to be the exception with fluorocarbon! Quote
beanz Posted August 9, 2016 Report Posted August 9, 2016 I had the same 20lb X-line on my reels for 4 years!! I occasionally had to cut a few yards off that looked a bit rough and frayed , and that's the only reason I respooled ( with Venture ) as it was getting low on the spool. The venture has been on nearly 3 years and still as strong as the day it went on, the fact UV doesn't effect it makes it fluorocarbon a bargain. Total poo for distance though. Quote
hawkman Posted August 23, 2016 Report Posted August 23, 2016 I use 6ft lengths of Seaguar Ace Hard in 35lb .47mm diameter coupled with the Korda No Trace System. I join to my mainline with an Albtight knot and for straightening it out I stand on my lead and pull on my mainline, giving the leader a good stretch. Quote
Dicky123 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 I stalk mostly and would like to try a fluro leader instead of tubing. Can anyone give me some advice on b/s and best knots to swivels please? im thinking of maybe 25/30lb for quick sinking, also in that size you can buy short length rather than big spools. thanks. Quote
yonny Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 Have a look at Carp R Us Clearwater fluoro leaders. I use the 50 lb version where leadcore is banned. Also available in 30 lb I think. They're fused at one end so have a loop already. I just tie them on with a grinner and never had problems. Quote
yonny Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 These: http://www.carprusdirect.com/product/flourocarbon-leader-92-cm/ You get 2 in a pack so not as expensive as they first seem. Very good leaders. Quote
yonny Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 (edited) Or you can get 30m if you want to make your own: http://www.carprusdirect.com/product/clearwater-shockleader-30m-50lb/ Edit: 3 turn blood knot for the swivel, you don't need owt special. Edited March 21, 2017 by yonny pooter 1 Quote
Dicky123 Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 Yonny. Are they fairly limp, the leaders you suggest? I ask as if not I can easy make some out of some normal 30lb. I'm interested in how you rated the 50lb, did it do the job of concealment. well? Quote
yonny Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 No 30 or 50 lb fluoro will be limp bud. Fluoro is stiff in nature. You rely solely on the weight to pin it down. The 50 lb is brilliant stuff, I recommend it. Very heavy, pins down great, very good option for clear water. Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted March 21, 2017 Report Posted March 21, 2017 4 hours ago, Dicky123 said: Yonny. Are they fairly limp, the leaders you suggest? I ask as if not I can easy make some out of some normal 30lb. I'm interested in how you rated the 50lb, did it do the job of concealment. well? I know you read the other leader thread, and since then on my clear water I have been using leaders again. The leaders I have been using are the clear TFG Lok down leaders, available strangely from TFG, they are quite supple, and are looped at mainline end, with swivel at hooklink end. You have to put on lead attachment, lead clip or run ring, or they do a heli leader as well with quick link clip on end, and heli swivel. Should have said first, welcome to the forum Quote
yonny Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 Try again: Last year I ordered one each of several leaders. I needed some to suit rules on a French water so checked out a load including the Carp R Us, Korda Safezone, TFG Lok Down, and another (I can't remember which one now). The Carp R US 'won', followed by the TFG. I didn't think the TFG looked quite as good as the true fluoro leaders on the deck but they were pretty good all the same. Quote
greekskii Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 I have just started playing with the avid fluoro leader material https://www.avidcarp.com/Products/End-Tackle/Outline-Fluorocarbon-Leader Seems like good stuff, just needs a good stretch once off the spool as you'd expect. Quote
yonny Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 That stuff looks great Vik. How's it look on/off the deck? Does the blurb ring true? Quote
greekskii Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 It is downright invisible, even in clear water. But im not looking from underneath/alongside it am I! Knot strength is great, beds down very well too. Not used it much, still have my fox submerge leaders at the moment but new ticket later this year has a leadcore ban (assuming it means leadfree leaders too) so will get more use soon. yonny 1 Quote
yonny Posted March 22, 2017 Report Posted March 22, 2017 1 hour ago, greekskii said: It is downright invisible, even in clear water. Goddamnit.... another one on the 'must check it out' list..... Quote
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