frogy Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Hi guys I was using a running rig last sat and using some hair rigs which I tied myself out of mono but every few casts when I reeled in, the hook length was wrapped around the main line or the weight, what was I doing wrong? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 were you threading the mainline through the lead swivel or using a run ring mate. mufty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogy Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I was threading the mainline through the weight swivel then threaded a swivel cover thing on then connected it to the hook link swivel. Then pushed the swivel cover down to cover the swivel. Hope that makes sense Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muftyboy Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I was threading the mainline through the weight swivel then threaded a swivel cover thing on then connected it to the hook link swivel. Then pushed the swivel cover down to cover the swivel. Hope that makes sense kind of mate i use the nash run rings and never have a problem unless i use really heavy leads, having the mainline rubbing direct to the lead swivel creates a lot of friction which can damage and kink the line, if i get the time in the next day or two i will put a pic up mate. mufty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogy Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 if i get the time in the next day or two i will put a pic up mate. mufty Ok thanks that would be good, just had a look at run rings and I will have to pick some up and give them a go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beza26 Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I have the lead running on the mainline, down to a buffer bead over a swivel, which is where the hooklink connects. I have never had my hooklink wrapped around the mainline, with any size lead. I can't picture what your doing wrong it sounds ok. One added thing might be worth trying is rig booms, helps kick the hooklink away from the lead, I have these on every rig. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Si , i dont know how to post a link to a different thread but take a look at the sticky in this section entitled "safe lead set-ups". Theres some pics on there mate and it'll sort you out . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogy Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I have the lead running on the mainline, down to a buffer bead over a swivel, which is where the hooklink connects. I have never had my hooklink wrapped around the mainline, with any size lead. I can't picture what your doing wrong it sounds ok. One added thing might be worth trying is rig booms, helps kick the hooklink away from the lead, I have these on every rig. Yes your set up sounds exactly the same as mine, as you say I haven't been using rig booms so that might be worth a try, thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogy Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Si , i dont know how to post a link to a different thread but take a look at the sticky in this section entitled "safe lead set-ups".Theres some pics on there mate and it'll sort you out . Hi Tim thanks mate, will have a read now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmanstevo Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 You could always thread a small P.V.A stick on your hooklength that will help eliminate tangles . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogy Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Just had a look through the 'safe lead set-ups' and theres a post and photo on there from 'keenook' showing his set up and its virtualy identical to what ive been using. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frogy Posted November 18, 2013 Author Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 You could always thread a small P.V.A stick on your hooklength that will help eliminate tangles . Yes when I used a stick all was well but because of the time of year and everyone telling me not to overfeed a few times I threw the rig out without a stick and it was a few of those times it was coming back in tangled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmanstevo Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 You could always thread a small P.V.A stick on your hooklength that will help eliminate tangles . Yes when I used a stick all was well but because of the time of year and everyone telling me not to overfeed a few times I threw the rig out without a stick and it was a few of those times it was coming back in tangled I make my mixes really small ..... But only because I'm tight !!!! 1 small stick with a couple of ground up boilies would be ok mate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phil Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Feather your casts before the lead hits the water. This will throw the hookbait forwards away from the lead, and allow you to feel the lead down properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Si , a small pva stick wont hurt at any time of year mate . Or a mesh bag size of a 50p . Its hardly overfeeding even in the depths of winter . I asked that very question myself recently and the general concencus was ; its autumn they should still be on the munch . You'll know when its winter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanz Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 Feather your casts before the lead hits the water. This will throw the hookbait forwards away from the lead, and allow you to feel the lead down properly. i was just scrolling down thinking this needs a mention iv been trying to teach my nephew this year and he hasnt quite got the hang of this, every time i see him forget i tell to reel in and sure enough he's tangled Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted November 18, 2013 Report Share Posted November 18, 2013 I KNOW what you mean mr beanz , but , serious question now ( no smileys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smufter Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I always use a rig boom to kick my hooklength away from the mainline. Without using one, even feathering the cast can lead to a tangle if you are using a fairly decent sized weight, especially on deeper waters whilst the weight is "plummeting" down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beanz Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 I KNOW what you mean mr beanz , but , serious question now ( no smileys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazlaaar Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 Feathering needs practice, let your finger hover over the spool during the cast, just so you can feel the line slapping your finger. Just as the lead is about to hit the surface of the water, trap the line to the spool, using your finger and gently lift the rod as the rig sinks. When you feel a donk, you have hit bottom. All your trying to do is throw the rig out in front by trapping the line with your finger. Lifting the rod during descent will hopefully keep the whole rig straightened out. If your paranoid that this hasn't worked try two foam nuggets and drag the rig back towards yourself when you feel the donk. It made sense in my head, sorry if it doesn't in yours lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
newmarket Posted November 19, 2013 Report Share Posted November 19, 2013 thanks for adding that gary and beanzy , reason I asked that is that I was trying to explain to one of my lads how to do it over the phone , would you believe , when he was fishing at the weekend. it was his first time out fishing on his own and he was having the same trouble as frogy. I`ve let him read your replies and he is now confident that he will be ok this weekend . poor lad I think I`ve got him into fishing , he`ll forgive me one day. personally I have never had any tangle probs when I fish running lead set ups , which is pretty much all the time nowadays. I only ever used to get tangles when I fished with lead clips.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 Braided rigs can tangle with running leads, but there is PVA to cure that, and feathering the cast also helps. The lead can also end up with the rig around it on landing on the lakebed, but is tangle free, but tangles on the retrieve as the lead pops free Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gazlaaar Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I read a piece by Terry Dempsey who purposefully wants his rig to land in a heap. Food for thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted November 20, 2013 Report Share Posted November 20, 2013 I read a piece by Terry Dempsey who purposefully wants his rig to land in a heap.Food for thought My thoughts as well A nice straight hooklink always looks so good, but the fish may be able to feel the 'extension' of the link and lead if it is laid out straight. A heap of hooklink, the fish don't know how long it is and so may be more likely to move off, giving a proper run Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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