salokcinnodrog

See your unhooking mat has headlined that common, Chub!
 
To everyone who has caught so far, well done.
Hope to put myself in here when I get back...

"Cracking fish".
 
"Hard fishing for little reward".
 
Were you hoping that the better fish were going to leap onto your unhooking mat? Good grief.....
 
I'd much sooner target lower 20's at a "stunning venue" than 30's at a muddy hole in the ground.
 
Ian
 

Ace Riga-Mortis or Amnesia.

Unfair.

I heard a 16 year old lad in East London was asked what he had in his pocket today...
 
 
His answer, 'iPhone, iPod, and Ozil'.
 
Reece Oxford
 
Result for West Ham, well played

It can be a bit of a pain shortening hairs so i tend to have 3 or 4 tied up just in case , its not as if i have no spare tme when im on the bank
 
I can do the same for longer hairs as well , its no real hardship but a lazy boys solution could be the Korda (and other companies) extenda stops ?
 
Keep em coming Sam matey

Looks a hybrid between the 360 and a hinge stiff, for me personally there is to much going on with the rig itself, I would keep it simple to start with, having said that there is something in the whole really short very stiff pop up section as the flick rig that Ian Russell uses a lot has a similar section.
 
I agree with this and i believe that when you are using a low sitting pop up the fish do not know that it is not on the bottom (this theroy is taken from experiences when diving when looking square on to some items it is very tricky to tell if they are on the bottom) and as the home in on the bait it catches them by surprise and flies straight back into the mouth

Nick,
 
Great questions which I hadn't considered yet. Pfff well??? I suppose how they're feeding is going to be dependant on what type and quantity of offerings are down with the hookbait, how shy or aggressive they're feeding (that Vs. bait height). At the moment I only plan to pop baits up high enough to know the hook is clear of debris particularly along a tree-lined margin situation - twigs, leaves etc. If I'm scattering just boilies as freebies then (at a guess) I'd be expecting them to be cruising around picking them off (sucking).....I don't know now. My logical thoughts are gone for the day it's bed time!

Another way I lengthen the hair is a piece of dental floss threaded though the hair loop. Thread the bait on then tie off with a bait stop.

Second suggestion is much, much better!
Not a fan of lead clips myself. I see them as just another bit of plastic to sell carp anglers, unless they are in the rig for a purpose of course like needing to drop the lead.

Back to basics again today, free lining dog biscuits for three more chub, 2lb ish (which I didn't weigh), 3lb2oz, and 4lb2oz.
 
I got stung to pieces, and wet feet, but when they look like this the biggest, who cares?
 

 
Just noticed my unhooking mat,

Back to basics again today, free lining dog biscuits for three more chub, 2lb ish (which I didn't weigh), 3lb2oz, and 4lb2oz.
 
I got stung to pieces, and wet feet, but when they look like this the biggest, who cares?
 

 
Just noticed my unhooking mat,

Disagree. That may be the point of the rig for less experienced anglers (the chuck-it-out-and-have-a-beer brigade) . For those that are experienced, the point of the rig is to fish spots that cannot be fished effectively with more conventional rigs. It can be used to chuck at fish showing over an area of unknown bottom but that is a secondary purpose.
I would never dream of putting a choddy on a clear area.

Back to basics again today, free lining dog biscuits for three more chub, 2lb ish (which I didn't weigh), 3lb2oz, and 4lb2oz.
 
I got stung to pieces, and wet feet, but when they look like this the biggest, who cares?
 

 
Just noticed my unhooking mat,

Back to basics again today, free lining dog biscuits for three more chub, 2lb ish (which I didn't weigh), 3lb2oz, and 4lb2oz.
 
I got stung to pieces, and wet feet, but when they look like this the biggest, who cares?
 

 
Just noticed my unhooking mat,

The rig on your link is the simplest you will find and will catch carp from any venue.
 
If it ain't broke and all that.

Here here

Specially for you then

 

 
Oh look, the same, just freshly tied!

Yep it has been noticed

Now from my thought, and what I've seen, a fixed fixed lead actually can snag, can catch up on any trailing weed etc.
 
Trailing a lead around prevents a hook being ejected, the weight keeps pulling the hook into the lip. The hook can only be ejected with no weight, in the form of a splinter being pushed up to the surface of the skin.
 
The left rig, I thought a joke.
 
To be fair, I think neither are safe

A lot of people have poo, poo'd the idea of leaving the lead on, its simple physics, you need the weight of the lead to pull the leader off. If I told you what I was fishing over you'd understand the reasoning behind this train of thought. Ive never really fished pop ups a lot, but the rig works really well for me.

It is a fair walk from the wooden lodges to the lake. The wooden lodge is fully functional, separate shower room from your room. Yes, if you stay in the lodges last time I checked, you could fish the river, which held big barbel, chub and occasional carp.
 
The bridge across the mill is quite narrow, and the one across the meadow tributary last time I was there was quite steeply humpbacked. The barrow to getting gear to your swim is a must.
 
Prebaiting can be a yes and a no. I would prebait, but don't forget other people may like to take advantage of your work. The swims are all available, so someone could be in the one you prebaited, albeit unintentionally.
 
Walk, look, walk and look, always worked for me on there, nearly always with a stalking rod! I would take a bag of floating biscuits and bottom baits every walk, and depending on what they were taking...
 
I did that write up a few years ago, it is a long time since I fished there!

John, really good write up.
 
 
Same here as Gary
 
If a water existed with only weeds as a food source, then the carp would suffer as some of the essential amino acids have to be provided for by animal proteins.
 
Yes, carp have lived for thousands of years long before our interference, but our interference has improved growth rates.
 
The Romans were using carp as a food source, which makes feeding them likely to have been going on for 2000 years.
 
Why does a fish get wary of a bait?
Regular catching, learning by association.
 
Why does a bait that does not fulfil all dietary needs catch?
The first requirement that has to be fulfilled is that of energy. As it happens, bread is high in carbohydrates, which are an energy source, and also a fairly quick transfer from digestion to energy.
They require the energy to break down the proteins.
 
In addition, baits/food sources can work together, basically like the particle and food boilie approach, and it does not have to be an individual anglers baits.
The particles are providing the carbohydrates, and some easily digested fat sources as energy, and the boilie provides the minerals and useable proteins.
 
Add into that, the sweet on the table. I can be totally full up, stuffed to the gills (sic!), but put a chocolate mint by my coffee after dinner and I will.
 
Your bread could be providing that sweetie, or high visibility attraction.

I still remain convinced that a good nutritional bait will out score any other bait, long term.
Yes if you put any bait in front of a hungry carp it will get taken, but when your fishing blind, and lets be honest we all fish blind to a certain degree, you are relying on a good quality bait to catch you fish.
It also comes down to how you fish as well, if your fishing a lot of waters a good shelf bought bait will pay dividends. However if your concentrating on one particular water for a length of time your better off using a good nutritional profiled bait to keep the fish eating again and again.
You can by some very nutritious, good baits now, but most of them have high attractor levels which can with time be associated with danger.
Which is where making your own comes into its own, you can make any shape, any buoyancy, you can even change something as simple as the flavour label, should your catch rates start to slow up, hence the interest in amino's and other attractors. I am relatively new to making my own and I have a very big thirst to know more, all in a step of maybe giving my baits that extra 1%.

John, really good write up.
 
 
Same here as Gary
 
If a water existed with only weeds as a food source, then the carp would suffer as some of the essential amino acids have to be provided for by animal proteins.
 
Yes, carp have lived for thousands of years long before our interference, but our interference has improved growth rates.
 
The Romans were using carp as a food source, which makes feeding them likely to have been going on for 2000 years.
 
Why does a fish get wary of a bait?
Regular catching, learning by association.
 
Why does a bait that does not fulfil all dietary needs catch?
The first requirement that has to be fulfilled is that of energy. As it happens, bread is high in carbohydrates, which are an energy source, and also a fairly quick transfer from digestion to energy.
They require the energy to break down the proteins.
 
In addition, baits/food sources can work together, basically like the particle and food boilie approach, and it does not have to be an individual anglers baits.
The particles are providing the carbohydrates, and some easily digested fat sources as energy, and the boilie provides the minerals and useable proteins.
 
Add into that, the sweet on the table. I can be totally full up, stuffed to the gills (sic!), but put a chocolate mint by my coffee after dinner and I will.
 
Your bread could be providing that sweetie, or high visibility attraction.