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It's a rumour I first heard bandied about last year or even before that they were losing or had lost the lakes. Melton has had problems for a number of years, with some of the local pikies and idiots deciding that anglers were fair game for robbing. I'll try to keep an eye on the lake as I can often wangle a trip past it for work

http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=37416 Is that any use?

You've got 2 different answers as to what Dan and Jules find easiest, and here is a 3rd, so you are going to have to work out what suits you. I tie a Uni knot loop at the end my hooklink and tie the hook on knotless knot or a piece of (4lb) mono if I tie a separate hair. Fit pop-up into loop and gently pull it down tight. I don't often use individual pop-ups as hookbaits, but I do usually use a snowman set-up, and tie the hair long enough for the bottom bait to go on as well and still loop the pop-up.

From the experiments I carried out, the brands that the inner leadcore poked out, ESP, Gardner etc, basically all of them after time, and a few casts! One of Levigsp's fishing partners did, and discovered that the rig was running along the fish's cheeks and causing "burns".

I can't put it any other way, but I will advise you NOT to use leadcore in your fishing. The cost is relative, not just the cost of what you gets for your money, but the risks it poses to the fish we love in tethering and dead fish. I may be "one track" minded when it comes to leadcore, but in my honest view, leadcore does NOT give you any advantage in your fishing, and is an absolute risk to the fish, either in marks, scars or the potential for tethering and killing fish. In my view there is NO safe leadcore rig set-up, and Numbers of fish have been found tethered and dead when leaders have been used. Leadcore does NOT hide the rig, in fact it is more visible than a standard mainline, and it does NOT pin the line to the lakebed. Have a read of some of these and then please I ask you, don't even think about using leadcore in your fishing: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32598 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=38886&highlight=advanced+carp+fishing http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=40711&highlight=advanced+carp+fishing http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=39794

Loam Ponds! Now syndicate, and I know that you have posted on another thread about it recently I drove past the place today, and just decided to have a little break while working. The Car Park is the place where you WILL get stuck at the moment, but I did park up and walk to the gate around the venue. There is NO ACCESS to the lake unless you are member of the syndicate, and the phone number was written on a board nailed to a tree.

But why add a fluoro leader (http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32598), when at any range it is going to serve no useful purpose? At around 40metres, the line is going to have arced down from the rod tip to the lakebed anyway, and is camouflaged against the lakebed.

Loam Ponds! Now syndicate, and I know that you have posted on another thread about it recently

Silicon tubing I can't remember which one I have got I bought a large pack of silicon tubing years ago, and I have kept it tidily packed away in a plastic box, only comes out when I need it. Most of my hook rigs are shrink tubed, with 1.6mm black shrink tube which I get from Mo's Co. Anti Tangle tubing; I was buying either Solar or Fox Running rigs, which come complete with the run rings, buffer beads and a length of anti tangle tubing Not used the Rig Marole tubing yet, just haven't found the need for it, plus I worry about having to cut it down and leaving that little sharp piece of wire sticking out at the end

Most people fish semi-fixed leads, so I want to be different, and I think that running leads give increased indication and proper screamers. Ye iv been put off my lead clip set up ever since my mate started catchin more than me wen he started using leadcore on a helicopter rig, our baits were the same but he seemed to always catch a few more than me, i think im gonna have a re think and expiriment with different rig styles.... plus rig tubings really starting to pee me off not being able to slide the line thru it Rig tubing is easy to thread! Use a Gardner Tube threader, or a diamond eye pole elastic threader and it will go through almost any tubing. I can thread Solar tubing with standard mainline though with no problems. I gave up using Korda as no matter what I couldn't thread it. I do NOT think that Leadcore is a safe fishing option, in any way shape or form: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=39794 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32598 http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=38886&highlight=advanced+carp+fishing http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=40711&highlight=advanced+carp+fishing Thats just a few for you

Or the angler had the skill and qualifications to catch them Drayton is an almost a fish a chuck water and from in close, in some cases UNDER the boards. The fish really get onto regular helpings of bait, groundbait, maggots or other slow sinking baits; catapulted, NO need for the spod. The best rods to use are NOT the 3lb TC rods, get something a little more through actioned about 2.25lb tops, or even for more fun fish playing and to avoid ripping the hooks out go as low as 1.5lb (a barbel or specialist rod). At Drayton in most swims there is almost no need to cast long distance. As for Shallowbrook, it is probably the best place to learn about carp fishing as there are a number of fish, and its not too hard. Cobbleacre is a lot harder, and has been mentioned on here in the past (search facility) Also Waveney Valley (will show up on the search), is pretty much a bigger fish venue, although Yew Tree and Marsh are more likely to throw up easily catchable fish. If you are Norfolk/Norwich based stick Norfolk waters into the search facility and a number will come up. If you post on one of them it will come back to the top of the section.

Most people fish semi-fixed leads, so I want to be different, and I think that running leads give increased indication and proper screamers.

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Tel, Thank you for the consideration of the thoughts posted. Unfortunately I believe that manufacturers are sometimes pushed into releasing products without due consideration, fashion or maybe because of "fish at all costs". I'll post this pic again as it shows my standard lead set-up, a running lead going up and down tubing, although the rig is "top secret" As you can see on this occasion I hadn't pinned the tubing down with putty, although sometimes I do, it depends on whether I feel that the fish are spooking off the tubing if it has raised off the lakebed. Looks good i personally wudnt be confident with such a long hair but im sure u have reasons for this, would u use this set up with slack lines? as its a running rig I'll let you into a secret, Long Hairs work better than short ones in most cases And what is a tight line? I haven't used tight lines for years unless the conditions are so bad that I can't them them slack. A running rig is only a running rig if it is fished with a slack line.

Show off In that case choose your venue according to the type of fishing you want to do Do you want to sit it out on a big fish water, or are you after numbers of fish? You must know which is more likely to interest you, so we can't really give you the advice As for living that close as 138 says, "Show Off"! I have to drive down to Hertfordshire to fish

The set-up pictured above works for pop-ups or bottom baits, and over various types of lakebed Just tie a rig to suit how you think is best

Tel, Thank you for the consideration of the thoughts posted. Unfortunately I believe that manufacturers are sometimes pushed into releasing products without due consideration, fashion or maybe because of "fish at all costs". I'll post this pic again as it shows my standard lead set-up, a running lead going up and down tubing, although the rig is "top secret" As you can see on this occasion I hadn't pinned the tubing down with putty, although sometimes I do, it depends on whether I feel that the fish are spooking off the tubing if it has raised off the lakebed.

I don't use a leader, EXCEPT where I am distance casting. I use straight through mainline with the last 30centimetres protected by tubing. For Silt/Helicopter rigs get a piece of RIGID tubing of between 1-5cms, a rubber bead (2 if you want it to be able to slide up and down the line, or use a tail rubber to hold the tubing in place), a bullet buffer bead or tail rubber, and a ring swivel. Tie your rig onto the swivel as normal, and use the ring on the swivel to go onto the rigid tubing. Put the rubber bead onto the tubing to hold the rig in place, and then push the tubing into the tail rubber or bullet bead. You can either tie the lead on or use a quick link style clip, and the bullet bead protects the knot. If it is free running the tubing can slide up and down the mainline. It CAN also be used with a leader, and because the rubber bead (NOT glued into place), will eject off the tubing in the event of a snap-off, the ring swivel and rig can also be ejected. Aside from the fact that I had been playing with a rig set-up using hooks that are over 10years old to give me an idea, this is still pretty much my current set-up for sliding or helicopter set-ups

No, I'm not misunderstanding. And in this case it wasn't Leadclip it was a Safezone Helicopter leader, where the rig should be able to be ejected. Shockleader, the only need for a leader, absolute distance casting, and NOT if there are snags!

Please, I have retrieved a Safezone leader and attached mainline (measured in terms of 10's of metres) that the lead could not release, was totally jammed up in weed, and the rig could not release. I tried, the bailiff at Suffolk Water Park tried, and between us we could not get anything to release until we gripped the lead in pliers, and twisted the whole lot free. If a fish had taken the attached plastic hookbait that was one tethered fish! In my view the only place for any leader is for extreme distance casting, and then if any snags are present, forget it and accept that you aren't going to cast as far. Leader or not: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32598

Tel Not just that, any leadcore leader where the lead is fished Pendant style or inline is a complete danger to the fish and is an accident waiting to happen I.e a tethered fish. The leadcore will always be trailing in the event of a snap-off, leading to the potential for the fish to get tethered. For ESP or any manufacturer to release such a product is beyond belief, shows how little that fish care is thought about, and is completely irresponsible Jez, I believe it was a Pendant leadcore set-up that you or Mach3 pulled in at Merrington, complete with fish attached and trailing a rig? Leaders or not: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=32598

And do NOT have anything in common with their name, i.e, they are NOT safe! On a query note, why do you think that you need a leader? At anything over 40metres the line is going to arc down from the rod tip to the lakebed. A leader serves no useful purpose, and does not hide the line anyway in most cases.

Join the still searching club! Suffolk struggles for fisheries, FULL stop. If you go to the search and type in "Suffolk Venues", click search all terms, and then specify UK Where to fish, I gave a list of almost every Suffolk Water I know, Day Ticket, Syndicate and Season etc, it is on page 2 of that thread.

I've used putty on the tubing at the rod end for years, but I do make sure that if I do the Running Ring can get over it with no problems. Not with a running lead, it is actually more instant. If you go to the Lead Set-up or Semi-fixed vs Running threads in Rig Tying Stickies, there is a fair bit of information on them about how a running lead will give more instant indication I accept the fact that there is also slightly more resistance with tubing and a running lead than there is with no tubing and running leads