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  1. Shelf life boilies

    in UK Bait and Bait Making

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    34 minutes ago, B.C. said:

    Don't apologise Finchey, it's not a stupid question mate...…… It's a good subject this with a few angles to consider imo…. Here's a few of my views, and they are just opinions based on a bit of reading, a bit of fishing and various comments from different people...…

    Glad you mentioned digestion. btw. Imo ( I will keep saying "imo", so as not to offend anyone)… The ability of a bait to be easily broken down, not just crushed, but dismantled , a molecule at a time, by natural enzymes, is everything  imo. It not only allows the bait ingredients to by utilised by the fish,( As once broken down by enzymes into, amino acids,simple sugars and fatty acids, to name a few, these can be absorbed through the lining of the fishes digestive tract, and on into it's circulatory system and delivered to wherever they are needed, within the body, to promote, muscle growth, tissue repair, plain old energy, etc etc..) but it will also attract naturals onto the baits/baited area too, for the same reasons. Ie, the naturals, snails, bugs etc , will be looking for the same nourishment. So a good bait, imo, will be attracting naturals from the off, onto your baits and providing a veritable banquet for any fish, this, imo gives the added attraction of lots of tiny movement over the spot, which fish will home in on, imo, with their ability to detect such things , through "electro sensory" detection... So these, easily digestible baits, promote a whole cycle of events, a life cycle if you will. And even if you are fishing a vast water and have put some bait in a spot where they are difficult to find by the fish (carp)… They will still attract naturals and in turn silvers etc and be devoured by the lakes inhabitants...Worst scenario, because the enzyme activity produces gas, primarily CO2, if the baits are not completely eaten, they will gas up and float to the surface after about 3 days and be picked off by the bird life or blown into the edge where the birds, rats etc will get them...……… Basically, they will not be sitting on the bottom and rotting for weeks...…. The only time that could happen with a good bait, is when temperatures are at their very lowest, this will slow down the enzyme activity and therefore slow down a whole chain of events. So in cold conditions, it's very important to put any bait in the right place, where a degree or two of warmer temperature can make a huge difference, to the life cycle..... So there you go, a brief description of what a good food source can bring to water, plenty of life in a cycle that benefits everything that lives in it...…..

    Right, now shelfies, how can I put this?...……. " NONE OF THAT HAPPENS"........ They should be banned imo..... It's most likely some very clever attractor packages used in them, as to why they catch fish.. But the fact that they are stuffed with preservatives to stop the enzymes doing their thing, means they add nothing to the environment they are chucked into, with some reports suggesting that the preservatives leaking out, can actually be quite harmful to small creatures and actually kill off fish eggs...... Add to that, that the preservatives will also hinder the gut flora (enzymes found naturally in the gut) in our fish, so they cannot possibly break these baits down and utilise anything that is in them... You may as well be feeding them cardboard...... Bleached cardboard with a sugar coating imo......... When you catch a fish that is Emptying out loads of a particular bait, imo, it's a stinky winky bait that can't be digested and is just passed through, so please don't think they are thriving on it........

    Right, getting back to the OP, soft baits, hard baits etc (again, just my op'). I'm going to dismiss hook baits, as I will always use a hard hook bait to get round the smaller species pecking at it , or coots etc picking up and dropping it.........

    That just leaves "feed baits", mine are always soft, boiled for about 20 seconds just to form a light skin that stops them sticking together in the bag. The plus side of this , is that very few of the goodies, liquids and soluble ingredients are boiled out of the baits and once they have been in the lake for a couple of hours, they will break apart when the coots try to pick them up, mostly............ And having done a few pint glass tests on them, they will literally disintergrate , after about 10hrs, if you touch one...... Whether the softness of a bit is more attractive to a carp, who knows, they pick up snails, mussels etc which are hard, but they also feed on, bloodworm etc, that are soft..... Being omnivorous scavangers I would think that the hardness/softness issue wouldn't really come into it, as long as the right food signals/attractors are being picked up on... Nuts are hard, worms are soft, they love both.... The problem I have with harder baits (boilies), it just says to me that there are fewer soluble ingredients in them and imo, will be mostly cheap ingredients held together with something like whey gel or egg albumin, and give me the feeling that they are slightly "locked up", which may take longer for any attractors to do their thing, not great if you are on a shorter sesh imo...... If I had some baits like this, I would probably try to boost them and soften them at the same time, by first air drying for 24hrs and then rehydrating them/soaking them, in something with a bit of pulling power, liver hydro, fish hydro, that sort of thing....... Even some plain old liquidised live, a quids worth of liver, liquidised and diluted with some lake water is all you will need for a few kg of bait.......

     

     

    Thanks B.C. for another in depth reply very interesting reading and very helpful. 

    I'm afraid I won't be rolling my own baits the amount of fishing I do doesn't really warrant it but I do think I'm going to be investing in a little bait freezer and swapping to frozen baits. 

    I have been toying with the idea for a while it would come in handy for my pike fishing as well, it would free up a draw in our home freezer the wife will be made up. 😂

  2. Shelf life boilies

    in UK Bait and Bait Making

    Posted

    I've been using the nash instant action candy nut crush and coconut cream shelf life and they seem to be quite a hard bait is this normal for shelf life boilies? and is there anything I can do to soften them up?

    If I can't soften these boilie's up a bit can anyone recommend a softer shelf life. 

    It's just that these seem quite hard as a hook bait and I feel when you get a pick up they must feel hard to the carp. Surely a softer bait is more attractive to a carp and softer boilie's must be easier to digest. 

    Sorry if this is a stupid question 😀

  6. Bite Alarm Batteries

    in Carp Fishing Tackle and Equipment

    Posted

    I'd say remove them better save than sorry you don't want them leaking. 👍

    We were sorting some of the kids old toys out this week and found a couple of furbys that had the batterys left in one had cheapo pound land batteries and the other duracell. The cheaper one were OK but duracell had leaked all over made a real mess. I wouldn't want that happening to my alarms. 

    Take them out mate not worth the risk. 👍

  9. Fishtec.

    in Carp Fishing Tackle and Equipment

    Posted

    2 hours ago, spr1985 said:

    Well humans make mistakes mate, I used them again recently via eBay (bought a nash bp6 reel) said it would be a week and turned up two days later, it funny how one company can give such varying levels of service 

    Yes I agree humans can make mistakes but the original post was about waiting for a rod for 8 weeks that they sold me and neglected to tell me that it was out of stock. 

    Thats my reason for not using them again. 

    I have used them quite a few times in the past myself with no problems, my resent experience has put me off using the shop again but you never know I may change my mind. 😀

  10. Fishtec.

    in Carp Fishing Tackle and Equipment

    Posted

    I eventually got my money back after just short of four weeks and another phone call to fishtec. 😀

    It was a fishtec problem not PayPal. 

    It turned out that the guy I spoke to the first time at fishtec had messed up cancelling the order, when I spoke to them again I got my money back in 48 hours. 

    So I will definitely not be using fishtec again. 😤

  11. Mortimer and Whitehouse Go Fishing

    in UK Carp Fishing

    Posted

    I watched it and throughly enjoyed it. 

    You've just got to take it for what it is light hearted entertainment and don't take it seriously. 

    There's plenty of serious fishing to be had on YouTube if that's what you want, it just makes a nice change to see someone not taking life to seriously and enjoying them selves. 

    Just chill out and give it a chance. 😀

  19. Fishtec.

    in Carp Fishing Tackle and Equipment

    Posted

    Well i cancelled my rod. 😭

    There was no problem cancelling the order, but from what I've read if I understand it properly I have to wait for up to 30 days to get my money back from PayPal. 😵

    If that is the case I'm well *****d of considering they took the money when they didn't even have the rods in stock. 😤😤😤😤

  20. Fishtec.

    in Carp Fishing Tackle and Equipment

    Posted

    Has anyone ever had any problems with the above company?

    I have ordered quite a few things in the past off them though the bay shop with no problems what so ever, but I ordered a rod around the 15th of June and they took the money via PayPal straight away and then emailed me and told me it was out of stock. They said it would be back in stock and delivered at the end of July. 

    So I gave them the benefit of the doubt and left it at that, today I got another email saying still out of stock and now will be the end of August. 

    I'm going to phone them tomorrow and council my order and try and get the rod else were. 

    Just wondered if anyone else has had any problems with them before. 

  22. A Bit Of Interactive Bank Chat

    in UK Carp Fishing

    Posted

    12 hours ago, B.C. said:

    Work party tomorrow on the little lake I've been dabbling on...… The gear is still in the van so might do a few hours into dark after the fish have settled down a bit after any noise we make. Failing that I'll trickle some bait in while I'm there and hopefully nip back for an evening sesh in the week.

    Sounds like a good plan that mate enjoy 😀

  24. A Bit Of Interactive Bank Chat

    in UK Carp Fishing

    Posted

    56 minutes ago, B.C. said:

    Thanks mate...… It's just one of very few simple rules on that ticket..... It's not the most difficult of venues and a few "bait boys" have exploited it in the past to not only promote their products, but literally fill it in with their bait and ruin the fishing. So banning public pics is a sensible way to prevent that..... I'll try to squeeze the odd pic in if I get a gooden from here, via my profile pic...… Should be ok now and then as long as no products or the venue are mentioned...…. I would have to check first, don't really want to lose my ticket over a fish pic.

    No way mate don't jeopardise your ticket for a photo, no one is going to do that. 😀

    As for the other idiots there's always someone to spoil it for other members. 😡

     

  25. A Bit Of Interactive Bank Chat

    in UK Carp Fishing

    Posted

    4 hours ago, B.C. said:

    Went back to the scene of my last blank while my mate fished the nearby runs water. Found a few fish where I'd seen one lump out last time...….. Different approach this time...… Fishing mega close in about a rod length out on the margin slope.....Simplest of rigs and maybe a dozen whole and broken baits scattered along the margin...……. 11pm a 19lb mirror obliged during a torrential downpour, 4am a lovely 23lb common on the same left hand rod... Happy days, first 20lber of this season...… I did have a couple of Tench, including a huge male which I weighed out of curiosity, bang on 6lb... Both tench coming to the right hand rod...…...

    Fish pics not permitted on public forums from this venue unfortunately..... But if I'm lucky enough to land something decent with a decent pic, then I may well change my Avatar now and then 😃

    Good angling mate 😎

    It's just a pity you can't share some photos of your prizes 😞

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