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24hr on Club Lake.....just me n the Pooch, also lake to myself at moment 😲😲. Left on a 4ft Zig, Right on Deck (wafter)

Yeah, well it just feels like I need a new challenge on a different lake. I have been doing a spot of river fishing recently, catching perch, dace, chub and gudgeon etc, but it doesn't really scratch that carpy itch. I will fine tune my current method as you suggest, I've just got back from my local tackle shop with the ESP TUNGSTEN LOADED and some inline drop off leads, so I'll see how I get on. I had a bit of a moan about the 20lb KORDA braid, but to no avail. I was advised to contact KORDA, so I will, just to see what they say

Well, I won't ditch the whole lot at once, I'll start with your braid suggestion and see how it goes. I'll the gradually assess each component to see if it can be improved or ditched depending on the experimentation results. I just want to be as effective as possible, whilst preventing any unnecessary damage.

How will you know what part was the problem if you ditch everything at once?

I just looked on the proper job website gone up to £10.25 a tub now. Good job I have tonnes already 😳

Sounds like you should stop buying them mate. Although the one you gave me, was useful. Proper job 👍

I wouldn't worry, I've spent 100s on pop-ups that don't pop-up, that's fishing 🤣👍

I wouldn't fish a short uncoated braid to a 4oz lead and not drop it. Lead clip or drop off inline.

Just had the weirdest take ever.....well double take.... Right hand margin had a few beeps, nothing materialised, then left hand rod 1 toned off, thought beltin....couple seconds into it, right hand goes.....but then I can see both lines are on my left hand rod....think some how the right hand rod had a fish on kited all way round into my other line and that's how there both onnmy left 1. Had to cut off about 10 wraps on each rod of the new line 😭😭😭.... 4 runs, 2 landed.

Had 3 takes so far, landed 1....scraper double....but the 2 lost were literally at the net.....1 felt decent too, kept low all way too net didn't even see the fish then ping, off it came.

Best of luck Highy 🤞

Shinning normal headtorch on em, yeh just about....

It's weird, because now it's gone like a pea green....

So far playing ball, I put in margin for a test....Vanished 🤣🤣, but yeh, casts well, coming of spools good....so far so good 👍👍

Good luck mate, How is the new line?

Sounds a bit drastic? Maybe try another species? I know others on here do that for a change if you're already catching more than anyone else. It sounds like your rig needs fine tuning

Good luck mate🤞

I'm going to reassess my whole end tackle arrangement from mainline right the way through to the boilie stop (including PVA bag size and contents). I'm also going to ditch the current waters that I'm fishing and find pastures new, and do a little bit of experimentation work. Should keep me busy for a few years

I've always said it, a short hooklink,(unless you drop the lead) will always end up causing damage to the fish. Either the swivel or lead will be catching the fishes mouth and head in a fight. The shortest I'd go is 5 inches for that reason. Maybe try a stiff fluorocarbon????

If I had a pound for every pop up in my collection I would be pretty wealthy right now 🤣

Thanks, I'll give the ESP a go. I think that you're right in that this is an issue that is overlooked and needs to be addressed. I was only using the 20lb (cheesewire I'll call it now) as it was the closest match to my 16lb braking strain mainline. I would never have thought that such a product, produced by one of the biggest carp Kompanies, could cause so much damage to the very fish that we are meant to cherish and look after. I'm really [censored]ed off that I've spent £15 on something that really shouldn't be on the shelves.

The esp tungsten soft is a good coated braid there are plenty out there though, I think it is something that is possibly overlooked tbh, I did a quick search and some lakes have banned uncoated braid,perhaps more should,

Unfortunately a think that I must agree with you. Can you recommend a soft coated braid ??? On a more sinister note, I fear that I am not the only carp angler in the UK using this method or indeed similar methods. Based on my assumption, it must therefore be that lots of other carp anglers are suffering the same issue, but just do not think it's something to be addressed. This could partly explain why we are seeing so many carp nowadays with damaged mouths. Anyway, I will lighten my lead and use a different hooklink on my next trip out. I will also experiment with dropping the lead for a short while and see if this helps.

That's pretty much my rig nowadays 👍 @crusian

The krank type hooks are good with a Ronnie Rig, I've recently developed a love of these with the Ronnie, these are now pretty much all I use now, great hook holds so far. https://www.jprecisionhooks.co.uk/products/advanced-lgs I also use avid D rig kickers as my go to Ronnie kicker, I like having the d rig to add a little more seperation between hook and bait (bit fiddly) and when I need to change hooks I now always file down the barb of the old hook to aid removing this 👍

If you like a krank you will low these 😍 https://www.jprecisionhooks.co.uk/products/gapex-1

ESP chod hammers 👍

Then it must be the braid with a heavy lead swinging about in front of its face I would say., try a soft coated braid and see if it still does it.

Korda Choddy - used for a long time, no complaints its like a widegape with the out turned eye and thats been doing the business forever hasn't it. Im sure all the ESP ones are great too 👍 I've got some of the new range and used to use stiff riggers, still got them in the archives along with the CarpRUs LS Nailers 👀😳🤣

I'm not for the ronnie and haven't used one just because of the extra metal, need for shrink tube or kicker and swivels can stick. The stiff end multi seems a winner so far to me, done all my recent fish maybe coincidence but it is aggressive. Obvs none of the additional stuff and can change hook even easier, what's not to like, plus everyone used ronnies, thats reason enough lol

Multi rig, recently done with stiff end section. Esp Tungsten loaded semi stiff Korda IQ 25lb Korda Choddy size 4 or Kama Kura style

Well mines been a pain since day one or every time it rains seemingly 👎 My fishing reels, shimmy lc big pit baitrunners are faultless and will not miss a beat, only serviced twice in over 20 years. They dont make them like that anymore.