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Tried one of these the other day. The meat and onion stayed put, but the lettuce kept coming off the hair....

Yeah ... fresh Stanley blade . Had more twist than John Travolta in pulp fiction 🕺

that is one gorgeous (Cyprinus Carpio) comunis BC

Do you cut it off? Min my youth I tried to melt it off with a blowtorch. Silly idea!

Yes mate, a very nice fish. One of many I've seen pics of, all hand reared from spawn collected from local lakes/rivers...…. These lads have some serious fish rearing knowledge and some serious passion too (not to mention the kit involved)……. Nerdity at it's finest, long may it continue...…. I'll be pumping out and resurrecting an old garden pond before the summer is out and I've got a couple of small tanks. So, hopefully, next year I can grow a few fry on from my Syndicate ( Train them on my bait..lol)….. 🙂 Then wait 30yrs and smash it on the lake.....

apparently, the first outbreaks of KHV were in a private pond in the USA, the owner had not long taken a stocking of fish from a Kibutz in Israel. just been doing a bit of digging to try to find which Kibutz and found a more recent paper on immunization, you were partly right about the vaccination @chillfactor the paper states that the Israeli carp are inoculated while still under 1 year old, they cannot contract KHV or SVC and are not carriers of either so they cannot pass it on, but they also cannot yet pass on the immunity to their young, also at the time of print the carp have to be in their first year for it to be effective.

Just trying to recall a conversation with Frank on the subject.... I initially was of the same thinking as BC that these Isreali fish were immune. If my memory serves me right I'm sure Frank came on & said that they were vaccinated against it .... but could be wrong .

according to science direct, Quote"Intra-muscular and oral vaccination using a Koi Herpesvirus ORF25 DNA vaccine does not confer protection in common carp (Cyprinus carpio L.)" the search for an effective inoculation is still ongoing, and will be for some time yet. i did hear from somewhere that it was the Israelis diddling about with the species that caused the virus to mutate in the first place?

I think the Isreali fish are vaccinated against it BC ?

I've heard talk on some groups of the Isreali strains being KHV resistant... Building up an immunity to the virus by being subjected to it..... If this is true, then surely they would become carriers? And if stocked in lakes that contain different strains, would put these other fish at risk? Someone with more knowledge on this subject mat be able to enlighten us on this. As far as I know, it is illegal to import fish and release them into the wild, but carp fisheries are not considered to be wild...… These points came up on a FB group I follow, where some knowledgeable folk are hand rearing older strains of king carp, in a bid to keep them going. When you see the pics of some of their palm sized proper carp, jet black scaleys 1 summer old. You can see why they are doing it...…. If I had the space and funds for a decent set up, it's something I'd love to take an interest in...

Had a go with one of these at the weekend, I only had three 8mm pellets on the hair and used a thin mono as the hair, not sure where the fish was hooked as it spat out the hook in the net , will have a go again with some different baits next time out....

Well after giving all the Locals a chance i popped into Total Fishing Tackle and purchased some new Goodies

Personally I use multi rigs for most of my fishing and have done for a number of years now, apart from I've now got two rods set up on multi chods. I use atomic chodda hooks in 4 or 5 with a similar set up to those above (my version https://carpychrons.wordpress.com/2017/11/02/in-depth-rigs-update/ ) I did at one point, through the summer months last year get a lot of hook pulls, which suddenly stopped at the end of August for some reason. I didn't change anything as I was still landing fish and I knew that it wasn't solely down to the rig, I had been hooking small tench and bream in the bottom lip on my previous venue so the rig was fine. I put it down to exactly what BC says above, the fish are not feeding hard and just grazing, funnily enough looking back the lost fish were daytime bites and the landed were mainly during the night, likely when they are feeding harder as it's cooled off. The one thing to really play with which will affect hook holds though, and is probably overlooked by many, is the amount of weight used (in my case putty), I've found even the slightest difference can make the hook act differently upon takes. The difference between a pop-up heavily weighted and a critically balanced one is vast. I found the heavily weighted got better hook holds, but when it comes to rigs re-setting it is nowhere near as good so you end up with potentially dodgy hook holds due to the rig being a mess on the bottom.

Got to strip 1000 yards of new line , which I put on the new reels the other day . I should of listened to myself & just binned the bulk spool as a bad batch . Thought a good stretch over the field would sort it out but it hasn't lol .