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The two fish I had the other day were both bottom baits yonny .... so agree that once its on the deck it will be fishing fine , just like to protect the hook point on the cast . Normally with a stick in my case .

The system/arrangement is too specific, reduces the permitted flexibility of "loose" alarms. Users only have one option. Sometimes I use a pod, other times I may choose to spread separate sticks/alarms around the confines of my swim. Options. Ian

Avoid fishing brands fella. The carp brands don't make clothing. They re-brand cheap Chinese clothing. Think Army gear or one of the big hiking/camping manufacturers.

I love a good tree as you know chill Sent from my LG-H955 using Tapatalk

I also use pva foam all year, regardless of weed levels, leaves, whatever; even if I'm fishing on hard gravel. It helps separate the hook bait from the lead on the cast, improves presentation for any rigs with a degree of stiffness, just helps in every department IMO. I will adjust the way I attach the foam in cold water (I've seen the foam stay on all night before!). Once it's on the deck I actually agree with Phil - Dead leaves are so forgiving as a substrate, same as silt; we worry about presentation but the carp will find a way if they're feeding. I'd happily fish a bottom bait over leaves if forced to (normally use pop ups anyway though). Useless fact time: the foam stuff is actually not pva, it's corn starch based, just called pva so anglers get the point of what it is.

Yonny, these look very similar to my Dymags which I believe are also built on a Harrison blank. It was Terry Edmonds who recommended them to me when I was looking at scopes for pretty much the same reason as SPR. SPR where are you based? I'm in London on Saturday with not much to do in the day as I'm off out at night. I could head over somewhere and bring the rods as they're in my car currently. Sent from my SM-G900F using Tapatalk

I'd rather not take the chance. With the number of leaves on my water at the moment there is a better than 50/50 chance that I might (might) land on one on the way in.

This time of year I like to protect the hook point , the lake I was fishing the other day was covered in leaves & hooking one as the rig hit the water was a possibility plus the leaves held mid water .

Can you recommend something that packs down to the same length (55") that's one of the biggest attractions for me.... I need to save space and fit stuff in the car more easily Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I dont know to be honest . I defo would like other opinions Sent from my SM-J500FN using Tapatalk