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Neal beat me to the suspender float idea, you can put a boilie on it and then you adjust the height of the bait by the simple expedient of tightening down or slacking up, this will have the effect of holding the bait in the surface film or just under, up to you. have a good look at the rules first tho as it will be no good arguing with the bailiff if the rule states 'no surface baits'. here is the float in action bud.

How big is your controller float ? If it's a smaller sized one you could try a Giz ? A boilie fished a few inches below the surface ? A zig just below the surface would probably be far more effective though as would plain old straightforward float fishing . A controller float is obviously designed for floater fishing so if you want to try it out that badly then you really need to find a lake that allows it

The best wafter I use are from Bang on baits and they are actually called off the hook wafters. My opinion is that criticaly balanced, pop ups and wafters are all different categories of hook baits. But if we were all the same it would be boring.

I guess it's quick to set up

i know man, and cant wait. i normally try to do 1 weekend a month but me and 2 of the lads i fish with have birthdays in early june so its a good excuse with the woman for a 5 day trip.

5 day session! You lucky lucky man [emoji4]

Yeah OK that doesn't make sense...

Will it suspend with a sinking bait though Neal ?

thats a good point, but this lake states no floating baits, doesnt state no float, so was hoping to capitalize on the loop hole and give the fish something they havent see before. i have seen a youtube video where a couple of guys were using one of the huge ball cat floats with a worm suspeneded in this same lake. was thinking along them lines, no idea what they are called.

Wafter, the latest name for an extremely critically balanced bait Seriously you could argue semantics, but to me a wafter should sink, but extremely slowly of its own accord, or have a neutral buoyancy, it would stay in what level of water it was put in. If it doesn't sink, but sits on the surface, then it is a pop-up! That slow sinking bait is going to be lighter than the freebies, and will be more easily sucked in than the free baits, and the hook will follow it in due to the hair. A bait that sinks with the weight of the hook, but would normally float, is a pop-up, even if the weight of the hook overbalanced it. Various hooks have different masses or weights, so a pop-up that is sunk by a size 6 Mugga is more likely to pop-up a size 10 101.

I can categorically confirm that a Wafter is a pop up that didn't get enough cork dust added to the mix. I know , I've made enough of 'em

I had some so-called wafters, that lifted the hair on a size 6, so I used them on a size 10 as a zig To me a wafter has to be neutrally buoyant or its a poor pop up!!

There is a high chance that I will be there this weekend at some point just have to make sure I get the rods out this time lol [emoji16] and don't worry if I do get down there I will keep the thread updated Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

That would be my thinking too. Another thing I've found to work in a tank test, once the bag is tied up, tie a couple of pva nuggets to the side of the bag you want up. Pretty well always lands well. My bags, with pop ups, doesn't really matter which way up they land cause as you say, the popup will work its way to the top.