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Bet you they do😉 If you put a flavour in a bait, it has the base solvent, which is in many cases a preservative. If you put in a powdered ingredient, it likely contains either an anti-caking agent, or an ingredient to slow down or prevent it going rancid, they are preservatives. Even basic sugar and salt are forms of preservative. Actually it is, to quote myself "Hydrolysate is a posh way of saying more digestible or usable protein". If you copy my statement above, go to Google and then type in 'is' followed by pasting my wording above you will get the answer "Yes, basically it is", and then a scientific process review. I would not have said it without knowing what I was saying, and buzzwords get put into baitmaking just like in convincing humans that isotonic, hydrolysates, are better for you than a standard diet. However, for the average person, regular protein is digested and used just fine. Hydrolysates often come with a much higher price tag, so you are mostly paying for the speed of absorption rather than a magical increase in overall nutritional quality. Then you have potential side effects of hydrolysates, poor palatibility, bloating, gas, diarrhoea or constipation and funnily enough, many contain preservatives, sugar alcohols, thickening ingredients and artificial sweeteners.

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Agree 100% that this must be a controlled process if done at home; sterilisation of all containers and utensils, using one way breathers etc, things can go wrong very easily if unknowingly allowed . Done well with care and attention, it is well worth the extra effort in my experience. Fermentation and pickling are commonplace where my wife is from, the UK is slowly (as with everything) coming round to the process.. Think of it as a way of liberating the amino acids that form to make peptides and proteins, humans do this process in an extremely low ph environment in the gut, relying on trillions of microbes to break down these proteins and to excrete hormone's that serve to repair and maintain the biological system, whereas the carp has a far simpler, and shorter GI tract that whole foods can and do pass straight through, often seen on the mat or sling. Anything to help the absorption of amino acids can only be a good thing of course. It surprises me when a known angler states carp are stupid because they eat there own poo, he clearly missed that day at school.. Cooking hemp is not quite at the same level of natural processing even though it can produce fantastic bait..! The other thing is what the resident gut microbe balance is, which is a direct result of what we eat, the same goes for fish. Humans can have a wildly varied gut microbiome, some good some bad, often pretty poor if heavily processed food, beer, (alcohol in general) and fizzy pop etc are consumed regularly, leading to increased levels of communities of unwanted bad bacteria which will excrete the wrong substances for good health and lead to illness over time. I have a 56 page document on my own gut balance, something I was far more keen to get the results from than my A levels.. We should consider the same ideals for bait, as a long term food source especially, and avoiding any preservatives in my opinion is high on the list of priorities. None of my own baits use any preservative, natural or synthetic, including hookbaits even though (and before someone points out) they are not consumed..

“hydrolysate” is not just a posh word for digestible protein. It usually means a material where proteins or other polymers have actually been broken down by hydrolysis. A proper hydrolysate should have measurable breakdown. For a protein hydrolysate that usually means things like degree of hydrolysis, soluble nitrogen, free amino acids and the amount/size range of small peptides. In other words, it is not just “old”, “boiled”, “more digestible” or “a bit fermented”. There should be a controlled breakdown of the raw material. Either via enzymes, acids, fermentation or other methods. Uncontrolled fermentation is different. It may create attractive compounds, and it may partly hydrolyse proteins or carbohydrates, but the result will not be consistent unless the process is controlled. The final product will depend on which bacteria or enzymes dominate, the pH, salt level, temperature, oxygen exposure and how long it is left. That is also why homemade ferments can be risky. If you don't have control, the wrong microbes might get involved and you may be growing potentially dangerous bacteria. In addition to botulism, you can add Salmonella, staphylococs, listeria and several others. Some of these are mainly a risk to the person handling the bait. Others may also matter for fish health or water quality.

Are you saying that anglers are being connived into buying products by scientific wording?😜😆 I have used Liquid Liver and Liquid Yeast for years, various companies sold forms of CSL.

Liquid yeast or liquid liver doesn’t sound as scientific though lol.

You have never read the Harlan Coben's Myron Bolitar series of books. Myron Bolitar would rather drink Chocolate Yoohoo over his friend Win Lockwoods choice of wine. They can do, but have been used for years, and quite probably many anglers have used them without knowing that they have done so: CSL Liquid, Liquid Yeast, Liquid Liver, various liquid fish products.

Or a quick way to empty your pocket.

Not necessarily. Even soaking and boiling is releasing attractors, additional fermentation of particles releases hydrolysates. Aging certain beef cuts, steaks, increases the utilisation of the available protein. Hydrolysate is a posh way of saying more digestible or usable protein, and can refer to meat, seeds, beans, legumes. Soaking and boiling hemp is doing just that. In fact while hemp is edible 'raw', it is more attractive when heated and oils are released. Even plain crushed hemp is more attractive after boiling water is poured over it.

We have a cat. She sits on the side of the pond watching the fish, she loves it. This keeps all the other pests like birds away. I have a fake heron next to my smaller goldfish pond, wouldn't recommend it. The cat couldn't care less about it and I suspect none would. We had a heron visiting this pond despite the plastic one, but not seen it for months now.

No sign of cats, or birds? Ive got both. Luckily not a heron, but a magpie (which have fairly large beaks I've noticed) I nearly got a fake heron, but wondered how long that would deter the cats. The hexagons do keep the food in the middle, they're not ideal, but dont fancy having a net.

Exactly..... I'm a hero really 😁

Cup half full , Yonny . You know that the Carp are going to start spawning soon ( in some places they have already had a go ) , and then they will need a rest to recover . So you are selflessly waiting until the end of June before you fish next . 😁

Another afternoon on my local park lake and 8 fish up to 18-4 chalked up. It's not the most difficult lake in the world but it's nice to have a confidence boost to compensate for a run of blanks on other waters. I was sending the boat out to the far bank tree line with a combination of boilies, pellets and crumb and topping up every hour and the fish certainly responded to the bait. I did chuck a little bit of crumb in the margins to see how it descended through the water column as I was worried it might be spreading out too far. A few hours later I saw a fish over the bait and it dropped down on it with it's tail waggling clear of the water as it mopped it up. Needless to say, my confidence on adding it to my baiting up has gone through the roof!

I get your point, but this a bit like shouting 'I LIKE CHOCOLATE MILK' when people are discussing wines.

My pond is raised with a good drop to the surface so not accessible for pests (and so far no issues with herons either). You could try a feeding ring which would keep food away from the edges but the koi might take a while to get used to it. The floating hexagons might work if they keep food away from the edges. It is defo worth keeping pests away. If they come to the pond to feed they'll end up pooing in the pond and that can introduce parasites.

How do you keep pests out? Ie. Cats, birds and the like. Ive noticed a few animals that'd take them given half a chance. Im trying these floating hexagons

Today i got a Sonik 13ft power float road with a 1.5lb tc rating, i have not owned a nice float rod for a long time, have to say its a lovely rod, well made and does indeed have a lot of backbone for larger fish, very pleased with it also it was a good price £40 new delivered

Here is a better bait idea and less risky, less grisly take a kilo of dried hemp seed soak for 24 hours in a large tub of COLD water, bring to boil for about 5 minutes and spod out on fishing spot, the hemp releases natural oils and feeding stimulates to draw carp into location

Not that it is important, but there was links to the Bait Tactics channel and video in there 😄

Persevere. Koi will generally be slow to accept any new foods (although mine loved boilies straight away too 😅). Once they're used to it, they'll be fine. I chatted with a koi keeping mate about my koi's reluctance to eat the dried shrimp/silkworm and he said they'd take a while to get onto it. They have done now... they love them all of a sudden.

So, they dont appear that 8nterested in these pellets atm. They have taken a few, but I end up taking uneaten ones back out?? They do however seem to like boilie crumb, which I tried this morning. Should I keep feeding them crumb, or persevere with the pellets?

Quick night on the local day ticket on Friday. Managed to get on them easily enough but a bit disappointed to just catch the one. I put a bucket of bait out about 30 yards in front of me and got continuous liners on it from about 9pm until 3am. Bizarrely, the only rod to go was the one chucked under the bush in the near margin. I can only assume my hinges were not the one..... should have put bottom baits out. Still, better than a blank and a very pretty little patchy common. I'll not get out again until the end of June which is a killer.

I remember baulking at 20 quid..... then 30...... I agree 40 notes just disappears as soon as you walk into the tackle shop.

I had no bass, but 11 doggies on Friday night. Mine are Daiwa 7HT's on a 12ft6in Daiwa Sandstorm and a 12ft6in Daiwa SeaHunter Z.