Lumeymorris Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 Guys last season I started fishing a bit further out around the 20 warp mark and started to get crack off when spodding out so was thinking of getting my self a shock leader but when I look online they just look like a strong braided leader and i alr Already have a 50lb braided leader so don't want to buy another if this will do it's the ridge monkey lead free one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 That is all you need or you could buy a tapered leader Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayvid Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 (edited) Something must be wrong...... or im very lucky . 20 wraps ,so an easy cast , 40 lbs Wiplash direct to large Spomb and never had a crack off ,same set up as a few guys I know Edited May 8, 2020 by dayvid Pete Springate's Guns and Its-grim-up-north 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted May 8, 2020 Report Share Posted May 8, 2020 8 hours ago, Lumeymorris said: Guys last season I started fishing a bit further out around the 20 warp mark and started to get crack off when spodding out so was thinking of getting my self a shock leader but when I look online they just look like a strong braided leader and i alr Already have a 50lb braided leader so don't want to buy another if this will do it's the ridge monkey lead free one I found spodding with braid absolutely horrible. If you hit the clip hard, because braid has no stretch you lose a spomb, even with a shockleader, or you break a line clip. (And I have). Braid can also be terrible for wind knots, and I also wore grooves in the tip and butt ring of the Spod rod I was using. On my spod rod I had to go back to 15lb mono with an Amnesia or 40lb Greased Weasel Leader and a medium Spomb. The distance I am spodding at is a lot more than 20 wraps (around 75metres), probably closer to 100 or more, and I no longer have problems with lost tackle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumeymorris Posted May 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 It could of been the braid I was using as I thought I was being cleaver and using some braid I brought a few years back of eBay and was only 25lb so prob was not up to the job and I did notice that I was only cracking off when I used the large spomb when I dropped down to the midi no problems casts better too! I was only going to add a shock leader due to losing three spods in the same swim three sessions in a row but I have now changed to the ridge monkey spod marker braid but again is only 25lb so would I be better off adding a 50lb leader?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dayvid Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 16 minutes ago, Lumeymorris said: It could of been the braid I was using as I thought I was being cleaver and using some braid I brought a few years back of eBay and was only 25lb so prob was not up to the job and I did notice that I was only cracking off when I used the large spomb when I dropped down to the midi no problems casts better too! I was only going to add a shock leader due to losing three spods in the same swim three sessions in a row but I have now changed to the ridge monkey spod marker braid but again is only 25lb so would I be better off adding a 50lb leader?? I cant answer that question ,as I would not use Braid that light for Spodding , as I like to use the large Spombs/Spods most of the time , and the do hold some weight , im guessing if you use small Spods/Spombs you should be ok . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 @Lumeymorris, how/where are you cracking off? On the initial cast? How much line are you losing? Tell us more. Is it wind knots or just hitting it hard? A leader should do the job or at that distance 40 or 50 lb straight through could be better. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted May 9, 2020 Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 I used to use 8lb nylon with a leader of 50lb years ago and ever had a problem as the leader takes the shock of the cast not the mainline With 25lb braid as there is no stretch in it I would add a leader minimum 40lb preferably 50lb as a spod could weigh somewhere between 5 or 7 oz. giving it the buggun will cause issues. Make sure your cast is smooth and not snatchy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumeymorris Posted May 9, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 9, 2020 Think they were by the spod end say like a rod length from the spod every one was different the only thing that I kept doing the same if anything was probably casting a bit to hard as it was during a cross wind so had to cast that bit harder and a large spomb. Pretty sure I didn't have any wind knots but to be honest I didn't check Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 A shock leader would stop that for sure buddy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 On 09/05/2020 at 15:38, Lumeymorris said: Think they were by the spod end say like a rod length from the spod every one was different the only thing that I kept doing the same if anything was probably casting a bit to hard as it was during a cross wind so had to cast that bit harder and a large spomb. Pretty sure I didn't have any wind knots but to be honest I didn't check How long is your leader? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B B Posted May 10, 2020 Report Share Posted May 10, 2020 As above Fox do a tapered line 300m of 12lb -35lb cost around £10 If using braid .... I wet the spool before giving it the big one ( if there’s a need for it ) by underhandedly it out then reel in with the tip under the water then again cast a bit further out and so on. I think the practice of just wetting the spool with your hand just gets a small amount of the braid wet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lumeymorris Posted May 12, 2020 Author Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 Don't have one ATM what length would you recommend and what knot should you recommend using to connect the two braids Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted May 12, 2020 Report Share Posted May 12, 2020 , Mahn knot, back to back grinner Some do an albrite knot about 1.5 x rod length plus 4 or 5 turns on the reel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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