... Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 Hi All....2 mates swapped the following... 2 x Shimano Alivio DX 2.75 FOR 2 x Fox Horizon X3. 2 x Diawa Black Widow 5000A FOR 2 x Shimano 10000 xtea Baitrunners. 2 x ATTs with Reciever FOR 2 x Fox NX alarms. 1 x Vader X spod Rod FOR 1 x Shimano Alvio Spod Rod. Personally I think the mate with the Shimano/Diawa is abit silly as id keep them...and the mate receiving them is well over the moon. Thoughts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 As long as both are happy yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted November 19, 2019 Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 The Fox rods are better imo. The 10000XTEAs are a better reel but not big pits so worth swapping. The ATT's have a receiver so probs a better deal. The spods are similar. I don't think there's much in it tbh. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 19, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 19, 2019 4 minutes ago, oscsha said: As long as both are happy There both happy with it but would prefer the Shimano/Att/Diawa... 3 minutes ago, yonny said: The Fox rods are better imo. The 10000XTEAs are a better reel but not big pits so worth swapping. The ATT's have a receiver so probs a better deal. The spods are similar. I don't think there's much in it tbh. There both 2.75 tc...Fox 40mm ring...Shimmys 50mm rings. The Diawa reels are all black...the shimmy look old to..silver n gold. As you can't get a receiver for the Fox ones...but a single system...i would be happy with the ATTs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I used to have a pair of Shimano alivio rods many moons ago they were horrible rods I seem to remember selling them quite quickly as they were really heavy, I wouldn't swap my vaders for them unless they have got a lot better in recent times Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 7 hours ago, elmoputney said: I used to have a pair of Shimano alivio rods many moons ago they were horrible rods I seem to remember selling them quite quickly as they were really heavy, I wouldn't swap my vaders for them unless they have got a lot better in recent times I love my Soniks at moment too...the Alivios do look nice and are well balanced with the Black Widows.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 11 minutes ago, Highy said: the Alivios do look nice and are well balanced with the Black Widows.. The Alivios and Black Widows look the business but they're low budget, low performance products. The shimmys and X3s might not look so good but they will perform. I think swapping looks for performance is a good call. Ultimately it doesn't matter what it looks like. ... and oscsha 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 36 minutes ago, yonny said: The Alivios and Black Widows look the business but they're low budget, low performance products. The shimmys and X3s might not look so good but they will perform. I think swapping looks for performance is a good call. Ultimately it doesn't matter what it looks like. Agree , far to many anglers choose gear on looks rather than how it performs for the given situation . yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 29 minutes ago, oscsha said: Agree , far to many anglers choose gear on looks rather than how it performs for the given situation . That's fine in theory but I decided a while a go from now on any rods I buy must have a Cork handle 😳 snowmanstevo and yonny 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted November 20, 2019 Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 I played with Alivio rods years ago, they were better for slinging deadbaits out on the river than they were for carp fishing from memory. Not bad, but not the best. Put it this way, they were ok for budget or starter rods, but not as as upgrade. The Shimano 10000XTEA's, not bad, probably balanced with the Alivios. Daiwa and Shimano each have their devotees. Alarms, I would stick with the Att's. Spod rods, probably about the same. At the end, I hope the gear works for them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
... Posted November 20, 2019 Author Report Share Posted November 20, 2019 12 hours ago, oscsha said: Agree , far to many anglers choose gear on looks rather than how it performs for the given situation . I tend to do some research on things before buying... 7 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: I played with Alivio rods years ago, they were better for slinging deadbaits out on the river than they were for carp fishing from memory. Not bad, but not the best. Put it this way, they were ok for budget or starter rods, but not as as upgrade. The Shimano 10000XTEA's, not bad, probably balanced with the Alivios. Daiwa and Shimano each have their devotees. Alarms, I would stick with the Att's. Spod rods, probably about the same. At the end, I hope the gear works for them. Best thing out the lot I think is the ATT alarms... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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