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Protien is where your amino acids come from in various guises depending on the liquid etc.. imo liquids contain FAA (Freeform Amino acids) are better as a stimulant, there are other ways to stimluate them though as i believe CSL attraction is based more around that active process of the carbs turning to sugars (might be wrong here memory isnt what it used to be ... lol) which is why the active versions are better than the inactive ones

The best baits are nearly always the ones that are a nightmare to roll and generally have a bit more going on attraction wise, baits that go through machines normally have had to take a hit somewhere on ingredients to get them to roll nicely

2 satchets of that to 100g will do it as a stop gap, it wont firm them through but will give the baits a hardened skin so will slow the water leaking into the hookbait

You could nip down the supermarket and pick up some egg white powder i would use this at 10% (or 10g to 100g), this should harden the outer skin of the bait and take them long to break down.

Agree with Nick, I would look at making a 1 egg mix of hookbaits with 5-10% of either whey gel or blood plasma that should firm them right through leaving your hookbait in place whilst the feed is breakingdown

From memory (its been a while since I have been up there) 7,6,5 are the hot swims, along that long no fishing bank there are a couple of water inlets that do a good number of fish, 8-11 are worth a look as well as they have access to the deeper water, 4-1 that end of the lake is very swallow. I think it gets a bit of weed in it in the summer so it might be worth having a lead around for clean areas. The baliffs have there own youtube channel which they have been uploading videos for tips https://www.youtube.com/@WyresideLakesFishery and Mr Pitchers did an episode of the challenge on Sunny 1 think he is fishing peg 7

Old wives tail mate, they will still eat fishmeal in the winter the problems you can get is becuase the water is colder and there metabolic rate has slowed down, if they chow down on a heavy protein bait it basically can take them alot longer to digest so they wont be as inclined to eat again for several days maybe longer, also combine that with there requirements change when the water is colder so they are looking for fast hits of more energy based/easy digestable baits like a Manilla or Live system rather than a complete food source.

If your going to be using some of Dean's (Dean Towey) gear you might want to listen to some of his podcasts on the subject https://www.youtube.com/@CarpChronicles

Loving the effort and enthusiasm on this thread Carpbell3 your going to enjoy that first fish rolling over the net cord

From looking at the ing spec. there doesnt appear to be much difference other than the NOR 70 seems a touch more soluble so would probably require slightly less CSCP 90 in the mix, so i dont think it would make a great deal of difference to the attractivness of the mix

Wouldnt be pricking then you could end up with a pot of bright bottom baits, pricking them will cause them to take on water faster hence making them heavy, you looking at doing multi liquid combinations with them ? , just add your required liquids to a pot and let them soak in, be careful not to over do it as heavy liquids can also cause an undesired effect

Depends on your interests within our great past time mate, some people have no interest in bait and how it works so if your that way then the above is a good solution, but some people like to know why certain things attarct carp and then create there own bait around what they have learnt

And the tool in question in this thread is designed for making cork ball pop ups, so the OP might benefit from by a small rolling table (like the gardener ones) for rolling cork dust baits

Whats the flavoured powder in question at guess its something from the body builder market so whey based ? The CC Moore Hard hookbait mix looks like its designed to be used straight out of the tub to make up hookbaits so depending on what the above is based on might be causing issues with the binding elelements Cant see it being the liquids but what are the liquids in question hydro's/oil/flavour some especially hydro's can be quite thirsty so if your just using 1 egg to 100g depending on egg size might also be an issue.

They will both work, cream based flavours can work really well in a fishmeal, Im sure JB doesnt recommend mixing TM1 with other flavours due to its complex make up, my preference is low level (1ml/1.5ml per kilo) of both these in a fishmeal food bait. Yes, I use it in conjunction with Nut Hydro and Special K in my particles

Doesnt have to be used with a fruit flavour, the beauty of making your own bait is it can contain whatever you want it to, I have used it with S&O with plum and Liver/Special K hydro combo for last 3 seasons plus

Nope, but doing that might give you some decent wafters, for pop ups just use the pop up mix of your choice.

Never used the Mainline Flavours, but i would glass test one of them as the colour is coming from the flavour it will likely wash out when in the water so that lovely pale washed out pink may not stay that way for very long.

So as far as I am aware carp can not detect oils they have no receptors for it, what they can detect is the lipids and any micro nutrients that are dispersed into the water as the oil rises off what ever its attached to. Which oil is best ?, well can depend on the time of year when the water is colder i would stay away from fish oils as the congeal in the cold water and will leave a fatty residue all over what you have coated or soaked in them, best test is take your oil of choice and put a little bit in the fridge and see what happens to it. I have also listened to something recently that suggest it doesnt really what which oil you choose as they all have a good lipid content and its the other things oil can bring like being a converyor for other items that you have mixed it with like lifting particles into the water column. You dont need to pay carp tax for a good oil, the supermarkets crry plenty Good Hemp Oil and Toasted Seasame Seed Oil are 2 that I use. Some of the other liquids are Hydroylsates and shouldnt be confused with Oils as they are very different but they can be mixed together to create a good effect for drawing fish to bait. Cloudy liquids, just find a combination of liquids you like and get some condensed milk from the supermarket and mix then together will cloud th water up a treat. If you use the Cap Oil make sure you wash your hands before going to the toilet 😉😆

Seeing as the original Trop recipe that was released on HMBB contain BAF tropical Fruit which is in the same vein as Fruit Bomb I would suggest they would be a good companion.I would would recommend keeping the levels on the low side though for a feed bait as JB Flavours are generally very concentrated.

There is no money to be saved in making your own these days cost of ingredients + delivery + waste/leftover as recipes nearly always have some left overs, so does making your own still have a place of course it does but do it because you get a buzz from learning and putting something together yourself that catches fish. And yes I do still make my own.

The group that originally had input when this was put together, were a members of this forum including myself, its a good mix pretty much covers everything a fish needs nutritionally, still use a slightly altered version of it myself due to not being able to hold quantities of ings these days. Loads of people use it with JB flavours, 2ml Ala Salar 1ml Plum (to 6 eggs) is a good one.

Would appear Prosecto doesnt contain insects in it any more The BAF product is coming soon, looks like its not something that would make a big part of your overall mix but i might be wrong as there isnt much information available yet Insect Pro

No but there sister comapny BAF have a bLack Fly Insect Meal in the pipe line

CLO and WPC 80 are good binders, blood plasma and whey gel will help firm up a soft mix also the micronised products can do a job as well, wheat is the one i have used in the past, the problem you might face is having your pants pulled down on the price of insect meal unless you have a good source.