it is a shame kev, but im afraid thats the way its gone anglers have become targets for yobbo's i had it happen to me on the school pool which is fenced and gated, i challenged a youth who was fishing just a rod no l/net or any other gear, i knew he shouldnt be there so i told him he had to leave next thing i know theres a dozen youths giving me grief i had to phone the son in law im ashamed to say and he is built like an outside toilet, they threatened to throw me and all my tackle in when the son walked through the gate and round the bank to me carrying a persuader they soon ran off. my wife had called the police who managed to turn up 3 hours later when i was at home. so now i keep a persuader hidden in my bag just in case