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My main thoughts are that I like the solar contour and the idea of hydrolink, (braid outside of stiff mono/floro) Don't get me wrong greekskii I posted it to get responses so do appreciate your insights, and to be fair you have put the danger thought in my head so it won't be used !

CM - what do mean by wrong angle? What would you be looking for? Have looked at unfair rig, looks to complicated ! I know that makes no sense considering I'm threading line through another and its too thick to go through the eye of the hook!?!

Who would have thought you'd need a PhD in physics just to catch a carp!?!

Hutch - am on it! Thank you for explaining, it's funny those moments when things click! I do understand

Nick - yes interesting, (amazing how much carp r us claim to have thought of first!) In the time I've been fishing, mainly from 2000 the company seems to have been pushed aside and it almost out of date. I'm going to see how this rig splices, not sure how well it'll work with the stiff inner though. Thank you hutch - I'll have to read your post a few times to reply to all the points! Hookwise I'm thinking some type of short shank wide gape, best I've seen is made by Nash, but I can't bring myself to pay that much! Especially as I've now found two companies that will sell something similar to the krank but for £3! I think I understand what you mean by having the bait closer, not quite convinced though, I like the short stiff section leaving the hook as I think it helps turning, much like the tubing on your rig. My main thoughts with the short stiff section from the hook is something a former member, keenook, said about imagine putting a cocktail stick fully in your mouth and trying to blow it out.... I imagine I could be difficult and the end may well stock in the lip and stop it leaving. With the stiff section on the hook I hope when fully taken in a carps mouth if blown out the stiff bit would hit the lip or side of the mouth and stop thehook leaving the mouth therefore giving the hook more time to get hold, does this make sense? I'll try and find the post. In simple terms I want it to be easily picked up = wafter, but difficult to eject = big hook and stiff bit to stop it leaving. Yes the hook knot in the picture isn't great! I couldn't thread it through the eye so whipped it to the shank! I'll keep playing and ideally it as you say standard knot maybe a grinned and a whipped hair. Androoooooooooooooooo - I've seen the hydro extreme and like the sounds of it. But I really love the solar contour as it is so heavy, I also like the idea of making my "own" hooklink

Octospilce is way before my time! Even Google dosent like it! Found a German supplier with some for sale

Nick - Good idea 're needle, not sure why I didn't try that!

Carpbell_ll - I've had no problem with tying rigmarole at all, great for loops and standard knots, definitely easier than an Albright (although that is a satisfying knot

Yeah course! I can make anything complicated!!

Just to add, I would have the stiff section from the loop as straight as I can get it, but the section from the hook I'd keep as it is. The hair I would have an inch gap between hook bend and bait. The hair would be bait floss either whipped and glued to the hook, or attached via a small ring on the shank with a hook stop.

Hello all, Am just fiddling with rigs and I like the idea of this; My favourite rig material is rigmarole hydro link, stiff inner with braid outer, can do so much with it. So my brain has got working as I like to make a sort of combi rig, mostly stiff, some flexible near the hook but with a portion kept stiff as it leaves the hook. I think the small stiff section can act as a line aliner type set up. Any hoo... I've made this monstrosity above out of solar contour in 40lb with 15lb mouthtrap threaded in the contour. I've not properly straightened the rig so you can see where I've removed the stiff inner. As I say I really like the "idea" of this rig, I'd fish it with either a balanced pop up or slow sinking snowman. The hook is a size 4 choddy krank, but I'd prefer a short shank wide gape hook in a similar size as the krank flexes too much. I would use relativly small baits on a long hair, the bait wouldn't be larger than 15mm in total. With a small pva mesh actually on the hair. (Currently I like a big hook and a small bait) I love the contour as it is heavy and I'd hope help to sink the rig. At the loop end id add putty on the purposely large knot in the hope it settles straight, and hopefully gives it some reset-ability. I like mouthtrap as I can bend it anyway I want, especially the short stiff section on the hook as I'm convinced it helps to hook well and in effect makes the hook even bigger and difficult to eject. So carp.com tear it apart please

Ooo yes... Or something thick like molassess or krill juice to hold the bottom mixed with an oil to rise up, the flow would help it cover a fair area. You could even freeze the stones with the cork concoction, keep them in a cool box on the bank, this would slow the release more...

I'd agree with androoooo, less food and more smell, cork and liquid sounds good, could you be quite economical and say have cork with a few drops of essential oil and nbyrtic? Expert opinions needed to pursue that further though!

Beanz, you've got me worried now! I love the kranks, I've not had the same experience but out of interest what is your prefered hook now?

Got to say I like both the korda krank hooks, and use them for most of my rigs. I've not noticed any excessive mouth damage, but have found they do hold in well. I find it difficult to agree with "all curve shanks cause damage" as surely there would be a debate much like the barbed or barbless? Crusian I would reccomend the krank choddy for pop ups. Barbed v barbless I tend to use barbless mostly either due to rules or thinking they are easier for fish to loose if line snaps

So you are happy to loose the pebbles though? If happy to loose pebbles I would try the paperclip but with a tail rubber. I think you'd get the pebble back when reeling on but you'd loose it every take. I reckon with a rubber you could ditch the ring and cotton. But would you still be worried the rubber may snag? I'm just looking at it to save time on prepping.

Gagna, if I had the tools and time definitely all my leads would be paltrax stonez copies! Got to say though I don't quite understand when you say you don't want to dump the lead as won't the weak link break on a take? Also as another benifit I guess being sand stone they would have some absorbant quailites (?) You could soak them in some glorious carp attractors

Ah interesting, that's a tough one! Is a good point you've raised though as a lead clip as shown in your experience is a potential item to snag. So you want everything intact unless it becomes snagged? Tricky!

Very cool gagna!! I love a diy solution