nigewoodcock

No need for leadcore in the first place Try not to use a leader of any kind if you can help it. It's much safer for the fish without one. Taken from the following thread, which also has links in it worth reading: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=45812&highlight=chod+silt+bead Basically I tie mine as follows. From Lead, all mounted on the mainline: Lead (with swivel cut off) – weak link of low b/s line – large eye swivel – Korda shockleader sleeve – the rig – ESP shock bead – slim float stop (set to required depth) In the picture I have not used the weak link as there was a clean bottom with no snags present. If there was weed in the vicinity or any sort of snaggy areas then this would be incorporated in the set up. I don’t use this rig when fishing into weed but I am working on an idea. As an extra safety measure I have now switched to using a slimmer float stop so the ESP bead will pass over the stop under pressure. If this fails then the running large eye swivel that the rig is mounted on will pass over the bead under very light pressure. I use the shockleader sleeves to stop the swivel and line working at horrible angles whilst playing a fish. It also lets the rig sit nicely during the cast. If there is a pretty much uniform lake bed out to the area fishing, I will sometimes use a flying backlead and / or backlead. This gives that extra bit of resistance on any pickup, if required. I do however, find that a slack line approach works fantastically in most situations as the set up has predominately been used as a single bait approach.

It's not always that quiet - thats why I like to have an early spring session on there and a late October one.

Me and Jamie met there on Monday morning. After walking round for a few hours and a lot of debating, we ended up driving over to Horseshoe. Would have liked a go on St Johns or Manor but both were rammed. We had Horsehoe almost to ourselves.

Or use dog biscuits - that way you could still have a tight bag that will travel a lot easier in the air! To be honest - I wouldn't bother. A poped up bait of an inch or three above a patch of stick/bag mix doesn't seem right? Maybe to a carp it does???? Personaly, if I were to bait up whilst using this method, I would favour a scattering of boilies. If your going to the trouble of pva bagging then you may as well use a 'standad' rig and lead arrangement.

Each to their own, your right Kev, We all have different methods and varieties that we like to use. The same as we all fish in different situations, as you know.

I find there is enough boyancy in the straight wagglers or quills that I use to be honest. After all, once the shot is lifted, what resistance is there pulling the float down? In most cases, I prefer a 'standard' float set up for carp.

So not a "windbeater" with a huge bouyant lower body, that will shoot strait up when the shot is displaced? Not in the shallow areas I fish for tench Kev.

Place a big shot a couple of inch from the hook and attach the float via bands. This allows you to adjust the depth easily when needed. My prefered float for this type of fishing is a short clear waggler, around 4 inchs long.

I used to do a bit down the old Trench road but the filth put a stop to that with one of those restraining orders!

Fished there before, yes. Fish there again, no! There are plenty of other places to spend a week. Emerald is a commercial complex and as such, attracts the type of anglers I would rather not be fishing the same lake as me. A couple of years back I did an overnighter on there and had a lad come round to my side of the lake to see the fish I had caught. Nothing wrong with that you might say. Nothing wrong until his alarm was set off and he had a good 150m or so run to get to his rods. His mate then came and fished near me and shouted across to each other all day and night! One of them used to post on here for a bit! Things may have changed now, I just won't be finding out for myself!

Good luck mate - which swim are you in?

Where are you from Dave? How long do you have the lease for? It could be a nice little pool there. It's like fishing the blue lagoon! I have only had an hours stalking on there last summer, but have had some massive roach out of the other lake. I'm not sure the fish are all that big in there from what I witnessed when they were spawning last two years and the numerous times I have walked around. It would get quite cramped if all proposed five swims were taken. I suppose it depends on how you place them? If your figures are right, do you think such a small water needs more stock going in to it? Especially at that size of fish? Hope it all works out for you.

I don't think there needs to be a wind to have undertow being heavy enough to move leads around If Goblin was still active; he could tell you a thing or two about it. I recall he has had to use some serious lead to hold bottom

I'll come as one of them!

He has been given the links to the threads containing the dangers of leadcore. Based on the reading I have done, I would make it a crime to use it!

If your looking in the Shropshire area you can't disregard Birch Pool. Details can be found in the adverts in Carpworld. Ideal size for the two of you, nice fish, good facilities and partners welcome. Oh - and a bit of history. Your also close to a good pub in the village if you fancied a few hours away from the lake.

couldnt agree more!! Same here, but it's difficult to educate people when you have Jim Shelley advocating using 30 feet of the stuff. Slowly but surely the angling world is realising the dangers of leadcore. Our best hope is that more fisheries ban it. Well said stoogi. The worst thing I ever did was inventing a knot for the stuff and the best thing I ever did was banning it on my lake. At least some of us are learning. Untill one of the mags start to print the dangers of leadcore and other types of leaders, then the brainwashed will stay that way. Unfortunatly the mags are only there to make money (not slating them for that as we all need to earn a wage) and the companies producing the horrible stuff is where there main income comes from, along with the sponsored anglers having to comply with the deals they have signed up to. Maybe with this Freespool magazine coming out, some unbiased articles can get into print and more people will start to see the effects of using leadcore?

You holding fish is all I have seen this week - in flesh and print . Keith - the article in said Freespool magazine, along with Jamie and Lewis' reports of your lake really make me regret not being able to make the trip with them. Would take a lot to stop me next time!

The latest fashion item as publicised by the magazines. In the majority of cases you are far better using a standard rig rather than following fashion. If everyone is doing the same KD rig, then it will seem to be catching loads of fish, yet the truth is that if everyone all fished a standard line aligner, or a knotless knotted rig and the same number of fish were caught, then each would show themselves to be as effective as the KD rig. Is a 'standard line aligner' a simple a rig as the 'KD'?

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Loo time is reserved for being on the laptop! Coming to think of it - most of my time browsing Carp.com is with a dual purpose!

To be honest Ian, it's the only time I find I can get into a book with my full attension. There's always something that needs doing! Now the long nights are on there way back I might get a chance or two to sit by the fire in my slipppers!

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Have a look at South Cerney or AK angling clubs. Theres more than enough waters on the park. Very good looking fish

Good stuff lads.