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I originally read this book years ago, but recently decided to read it again. It is an absolutely brilliant book, giving the life and cycle of Cypry, a carp who comes up to be well above the British record (of the time, it was originally published in 1973) and Andy a young lad who becomes a true angler. The book gives the good and bad of fishing from back then, and is definitely well worth a read if you can get hold of it.

I have accepted this thought with my fishing, yet I can't understand why Tackle Manufacturers still insist on selling set-ups like this when it is such a potential risk? It must be a case of money making over fish care and to heck with what anglers think. Unfortunately it means that many anglers are NOT fishing safely, or think that because it is available from shops it has to be safe... As I've said before, in my mind the only need for a leader is to fish at maximum distance, when giving it the biggun, a shockleader for casting. In that thought, the rig in the event of a break-off, or lost fish the only thing that should be trailing is the rig that can be ejected. If there are any snags, then a trailing leader becomes a risk, as does a lead that cannot be released, by a jammed up, overtightened tail rubber on a lead clip.

I wonder how many lost fish are on helicopter set-ups where I think the angle of pull is different to that on pendant or inline set-ups? I know that I used to lose far more fish on silt/chod helicopter set-ups than I ever did or do on 'normal' leads. I also found me personally that a line aligned hook and rigs with a good length of tubing (about 10mm above the eye) were also better at preventing fish losses than a plain knotless knot or tied on hook with an additional hair.

Totally agree about generators being temperamental. I hate Coleman stoves with a passion after an incident: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=56036&highlight=coleman+stove

I like the boom to have a bit of ply in it so that it has a chance of settling if over a stone/twig etc?? I tend to use a loop knot if joining the Amnesia to a standard swivel, or use a ringed swivel. I think that in most cases it sets down nicely on the lakebed with that.

Sort of I could give you a couple of phone numbers to get you into syndicates in Suffolk (places that I'm not particularly interested in or are too expensive for me), but unfortunately not much good. How far over are you looking to come from the Midlands? Can go over as far as some of the Cambrigeshire area for a few waters if you want, look at Lily Fisheries on t'interweb, may be some use

Aye, can understand that I also understand that syndicates are often very hush hush, and people who are members won't or don't want them publicised There may even be some very well known syndicates but you won't get in unless you walk the right way, have the correct handshake and are friends with exactly the right people

For boom materials I'm still old fashioned, and use Amnesia. It works is stiff enough and as an added bonus, the black fits in nicely over silty lakebeds, and the clear is just that, clear The black is slightly softer and more supple than the clear. My usual for boom sections is the 20lb, but occasionally I resort to 30. One thing I will say with Amnesia, always check and double check your knots, a 3 turn blood knot works to a swivel, but I still prefer that Uni/Grinner knot for security. Amnesia can be a pig, as you will need to check it almost every fish. I believe that Tim Paisley was using the hinged set-up with a silkworm mini hooklink section and a bottom bait.

I've given up using leaders as much as possible, now only for long distance casting, and will still use tubing or go totally naked I consider the theory of tubing to 'stop the fish rubbing or catching scales' as absolute rubbish. It may very rarely happen, but it is very rare, and you don't use a leader or tubing when floater or zig rig fishing, so that puts that out as Bones kind of says. I'm quite happy using mono straight through, just take your time getting the line down and putting indicators on, and no problems

Perry, My hate for Korda is that some of the tackle that hits the market is not always the best (or safest) for that which it is released for and the overly aggressive article advertising. While I agree that some products are ok, and Korda are NOT the most highly priced equipment, there are some things that just are not safe or necessarily properly thought out, yet are advertised as the be all and end all. Don't get me wrong there are some things that I think are best from Korda, a certain marker float springs to mind, and the original ready made coated leads (someone will say that Gold Label did it first now ), yet other things are not always the best, and customer service and advice has on occasions been misled. To be fair I would say with any manufacturer, don't stick with one tackle brand, you have to try all and get feedback to be able to make an informed decision as to what you use. As it happens, when it comes to hooklinks, other than a few spools of mono and Amnesia in my box, I haven't used any brand other than Kryston for years.

Either Go Outdoors or Blacks or check on Ebay. I'm still using the Web Tex Warrior stove I recommend on this thread: http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=28868&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=stove&start=25

Take your pick, Rig Tying or Tackle and Equipment Sorted and placed in Rig Tying as you can then add any additionals about the rigs you tie up with the material.

My thoughts as well A nice straight hooklink always looks so good, but the fish may be able to feel the 'extension' of the link and lead if it is laid out straight. A heap of hooklink, the fish don't know how long it is and so may be more likely to move off, giving a proper run

Braided rigs can tangle with running leads, but there is PVA to cure that, and feathering the cast also helps. The lead can also end up with the rig around it on landing on the lakebed, but is tangle free, but tangles on the retrieve as the lead pops free

I actually think that a number of people are unintentionally fishing Zig rigs on helicopter set-ups, hence the Chod rigs reputation for cast anywhere. I try to work out the depth of the silt where I am fishing (a piece of wool tied to the lead will take on the colour of the lakebed), and then adjust the top bead accordingly. As for the use of leadcore, I had best say no more than the poxy stuff should be banned, there are far too many emotive threads on here about that subject

While I agree that on casting the bottom bead should in theory stop the rig sliding down towards the lead, it may actually slide down towards the lead anyway under pressure during the fight from a fish. You play a fish, and usually the line thins some, so a stop knot may well slide down the line towards the lead anyway. This can still result in the fish getting banged about with a lead close to the head. It may actually be better to fish a longer rig to keep the lead away from the fish during the fight, so thiose mega short 3 inch rigs could be a thing of the past The top bead you want enough rig travel so that the bait is presented on top (if that is where fish feeding) of the silt. As for whether you fish tight or slack, my view with a silt rig is that you want a very tight line, so that you get all indications. Single bleeps can often still be fish hooked. Secondary bleeps can be the fish doing a disappearing act, minus your hook. With a slack line, you may well be missing indications, especially as the lead is semi-fixed.

Hi Tim went to shallowbrook my local lake and had one fish and my arm was aching and the rod was bending more than ever before so thought 'great its a biggie' then it came off! As you can imagine the air was blue!!! Brave man fishing there always hearing of setups and tackle going walkies there. I can say the same of many waters, and in some cases (NOT all) it is put about to keep putting anglers off from fishing the water. Yes, there are all sorts of "tales" put about to discourage incoming anglers. Can't comment on Shallowbrook, I've never been there. Ian A couple of smallish lakes on the outskirts of Norwich, admittedly near the infamous Larkman area of the city, but I can never remember any trouble down at the lakes on the few times I had fished there. I found Taverham Mills a mile or so up the road far more interesting and better looking with a better quality of fish. As for Taswood, I do know that there were a number of fish movements around the site to cover up missing and lost fish. The quality of angler was not necessarily the highest as it was run as a holiday complex with a very loose attitude by the owners/bailiffs at times. I also believe, note believe, not fact, but rumour that not all of the fish that were stocked into the Taswood complex were properly licensed and with the complete EA Section 30 consents. Now of course, as I said this is a heavy rumour, but as I did used to have a fair bit of contact with the area, from the people who these rumours came from I do have faith in their integrity, so the choice is yours

Hi Tim went to shallowbrook my local lake and had one fish and my arm was aching and the rod was bending more than ever before so thought 'great its a biggie' then it came off! As you can imagine the air was blue!!! Brave man fishing there always hearing of setups and tackle going walkies there. I can say the same of many waters, and in some cases (NOT all) it is put about to keep putting anglers off from fishing the water. Yes, there are all sorts of "tales" put about to discourage incoming anglers. Can't comment on Shallowbrook, I've never been there. Ian A couple of smallish lakes on the outskirts of Norwich, admittedly near the infamous Larkman area of the city, but I can never remember any trouble down at the lakes on the few times I had fished there. I found Taverham Mills a mile or so up the road far more interesting and better looking with a better quality of fish. As for Taswood, I do know that there were a number of fish movements around the site to cover up missing and lost fish. The quality of angler was not necessarily the highest as it was run as a holiday complex with a very loose attitude by the owners/bailiffs at times. I also believe, note believe, not fact, but rumour that not all of the fish that were stocked into the Taswood complex were properly licensed and with the complete EA Section 30 consents. Now of course, as I said this is a heavy rumour, but as I did used to have a fair bit of contact with the area, from the people who these rumours came from I do have faith in their integrity, so the choice is yours

Hi Tim went to shallowbrook my local lake and had one fish and my arm was aching and the rod was bending more than ever before so thought 'great its a biggie' then it came off! As you can imagine the air was blue!!! Brave man fishing there always hearing of setups and tackle going walkies there. I can say the same of many waters, and in some cases (NOT all) it is put about to keep putting anglers off from fishing the water.

Are these any use? http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=54671&highlight=taswood http://www.carp.com/carp-forum/viewtopic.php?t=40879&highlight=taswood

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From the Norfolk Venues Sticky at the top of the page: (There are also a couple of threads on the lake under Cranworth or Woodrising if you hit the search button, but most are short) I fished it years ago and it was quite an easy venue and the best area to fish was the far end of the lake away from the car park. Wamps and I had a few fish out, but they have definitely grown since then and the lake has been extended from its original L shape.

I was going to add to my previous post, but forgot to edit it, what about using your main line as your mono hooklink as well? It works, it means you aren't buying extra line for the sake of it as well, and is something I have been known to do In fact if you get hold of a copy of Tim Paisleys To Catch a Carp, on the rigs chapter a few recommendations from some big names for doing exactly that. It is something that Paddy Webb, Lee Jackson and others often do (or did) Debated and thought about it, finally decided to moce this into Rig Tying section

For Carp fishing I use a few nylon hooklink materials. 15lb clear Amnesia. 7lb Berkeley Trilene XL 12lb Drennan Sub Surface Fly Leader in green or brown These hooklink materials are the ones I use for surface fishing and bottom fishing on the occasions I am happy to use a nylon hooklink (which on day sessions I often do). The Amnesia will take a Rapala loopknot at the mainline end, and a 3 turn blood knot. The Drennan and Berkeley I tend to use a knotless knot to tie the hook on, and then my standard Uni knot at the swivel end mainline join.

The Main Lake and Jacobs Creek are absolutely jam packed with weed, some swims in summer on the main lake are unfishable, and I do mean it in the proper sense. Now my view on Jacobs Creek is that it is not quite as the management say about it, and the management view that it is jam packed with 30's is not quite the truth. I understand the analogy about golf, but then I find golf hard to comprehend, why whack a ball from one end f a course to the other, attempting to put it into 18 little holes, and I find golf boring, whereas fishing is not. The thing with Jacobs Creek is that it is very weedy, and you have to be able to deal with fishing in the weed. To my mind you should ALWAYS walk around a lake before you fish. You should be able to fit into the surroundings, and your abilities and skills should match. Yes, you should try to improve, to get better, which sometimes means taking a bite bigger than you can chew, but if you had looked around Jacobs Creek beforehand then you would know what to expect, and made the choice to fish it or not.