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Been to both those places and would rather live in Grays but I would swop nowhere for SW France.

That is a very informative video Highy. The Deeper marketing blurb says “CHIRP sends a continuous sweep of frequencies ranging from low to high, interpreting these frequencies individually upon their return.” but in the video it seems to show that you have to select which particular frequency to use (rather than a continuous sweep of frequencies) - unless it means each individual frequency is a very small range of frequencies. In that video this shot shows how to select one of the three frequencies. The reflection showing a sloping line (in the middle of the screen) is very interesting. I interpret this as an air bubble rising from the lake bed. This shot shows what happens when you change frequencies. Assuming it is a continuous sounding line, each frequency shows the bottom at a different location. Which is right? This shot from the video is very interesting and shows a huge parabolic reflection ("fish arch" in marketing speak) in the centre of the screen. Is it a huge fish on the bottom? Of course not. The fact that it is symmetrical indicates that it is stationery as the Deeper passes over it. I would interpret it as a vertical step, probably artificial, with some debris accumulated on the edge of the step. There is a lot more to interpreting an echo trace than meets the eye.

Very good watch and gives a good understanding of how I also use my Deeper Chirp +

Dear confused.com I understand your confusion. I have been using a Deeper Pro + since they were first available roughly 10 years ago. They are an incredible bit of kit but I feel their capabilities are masked in traditional carp marketing speak. I have no experience of other models but this is what I understand. There seems to be no such thing as a Deeper Chirp + If the model is followed by a + sign it signifies that it is capable of using 2 different frequencies. If the model is followed by a +2 sign it means it uses three different frequencies, If it has a CHIRP designation it means it uses a special technology. According to Deeper, “CHIRP sends a continuous sweep of frequencies ranging from low to high, interpreting these frequencies individually upon their return.” For the life of me, I cannot understand what this means or how it is useful. The manual seems to suggest that you choose which frequency to use. There also seems to be a feature where the frequency changes according to depth of water. If you do not understand the relevance of frequency here is some very basic information. An echo sounder (NEVER call them fish finders, this is totally misleading marketing speak) uses a transducer (basically a combined loud speaker and microphone combined) to generate a noise and record when an echo from that noise is received. There is a pulse rate which is the number of times a sound is generated per second. If you put your ear to the transducer you will hear a rapid clicking noise. This is 15 time per second for all the Deepers apart from the very basic (non GPS) model which uses 10 clicks per second. The frequency of the sound determines what gets picked up. Think of a guitar. The top string E sounds a lot different from the bottom string E. The top string is a high frequency – the bottom string is a low frequency. Here is the first indication of why frequency is important. If you hear a band playing loud music from a long way off or when a car passes playing loud music, you often hear only the boom boom boom of the base and not the rest of the music. This is because the lower the frequency – the greater the ability to penetrate the intervening space. So in an echo sounder a low frequency could be used to penetrate weed and locate the actual bottom. Conversely, a high frequency is quickly absorbed so it might only show you the top of the weed. If you have a thermocline for example it could show up on a high frequency as a false bottom (but this is very rare) The other feature of frequency is the area is covered by the pulse. High frequencies can be focused more accurately than low frequencies. In marketing speak this is described as a narrow cone or a wide cone from which reflections are picked up. For example in the Pro +2 675 kHz gives 70 cone 240 kHz gives 20o cone 100 kHz gives 470 cone I hope, Newmarket this helps you understand what the models mean. If I were on a budget, I would choose the PRO + . Even 10 years later and with GPS no longer working on it I still use it for feature identification and mapping (by attaching my phone and Deeper to a bait boat). BTW give my love to beautiful Grays – I used to go to school there in the early 1960’s

Freddie as he now is called, has settled in needs a good shower wait till it warms up a bit, goes out for the toilet, can't see why he has been through two homes, he has a light grab when excited very soft though but his teeth are pin sharp i could see the last owner would be put off by that, he drew first blood on me last night playing with his tug ring his teeth went across my hand. he is chilled though got up today went out now back asleep. going to need a vet has a bit off chaffing from living in a harness needs his vac doin,g take him over the woods soon once he has had a scrub.

Behind me Davie and push me forward... see they got a few pics up of dave looking all cute and butter like might nip in and see him this week, he looks like he has lost a bit of weight i said they needed to cut the food for obedience out with a dog like dave i still reckon someone is shaking a sausage at him in those new pics, he is my sort of dog other than when he play fights it can go from 0 to max in a blink of an eye but he is still playing, i seen a video of when they first got him , put him in with two well trained german shepherds that could handle his rough play, i got to say i didn't fancy their chances much, he was all over them with a big stupid grin and a waggy tail the dog just didn't care.

I used mine to pretty good effect the other week, I found some fish fizzing around a massive weed bed chucked it on top,away from them a bit slowly dragged it back, found the edge of the weed and a clear spot in 1 cast, plopped a rig and bait out with the 6m baiting pole 5m later this one was hooked, I almost wanted to say boom then 😂