A ok maybe ill aviod dwarf then haha. Shame the scopes are so so much money but the tt ones do look good. And I havnt heard one bad thing about them and I get the same tc I'm used too Sonik have done the own which are same lenght as the scopes so should fit in the quiver the same with reel pouches and there only about 80 quid each.
But there 40mm rings and seem rarer then rocking horse tied to find out about
I'm planning doing dping a few nights on places i shouldnt (nothing illegal though haha) hence the packdown size being important. Want be as small as possible