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Don’t care what anyone says, There is no fool proof lead set up the best you can hope for is to minimise any problems if and when it happens underwater, anything can happen once the line has snapped off.
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I'm not sure, you have what is essentially a 'pulley rig' system as is used in sea fishing. There is inbuilt tension, so I don't think it is a true running rig. I've seen fish eject rigs when there is no tension, and Ken Townley wrote about it in Tim Paisley's Big Carp, where a lost fish at Savay came into Snags with a rig in its mouth. 2 days later the fish was swimming around in the snags minus the rig. As I mention, the majority of the time, the line breaks at the swivel anyway, the knot is the weak point. When I hooked the swan last week, and the line snapped, it was still in the clip, so I was able to check where it had broken; the loss was minimal, more where I cut off the curly-wurly. A fish trailing just rig and line is not likely to be giving false indication to other anglers, unless there is detritus caught up on the line, whereas a lead clip that hasn't ejected, and I have retrieved a lot of them, will. Not all had the tail rubber forced or pushed right on, some were just jammed up with a bit of weed, mud or stick! Something else, the loop of line in the PB lead clip, with the lead or lead swivel butting up against it, may be at risk of damage from the lead itself. If that loops breaks you will still be losing line and the fish. I don't think it is as secure as a standard knot to the hooklink swivel.
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Cheers mate - I'll have a look 👍
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salokcinnodrog replied to InteraX's topic in UK Carp Fishing
We use boilies as a practical and easy bait as standard, although as you mention, most other baits are not carp specific. I do love particles, especially maize and chick peas. Maize can be left quite hard after soaking and boiling, and chickpeas can be coloured and flavoured, but you also have maples, sweetcorn, the list is endless. If you buy sweetcorn from the freezer, I've found it best by adding two teaspoons of brown sugar, a grind of salt (rather than straight from the salt cellar), covered in boiling water and left to steep. That is for one bag. Tinned sweetcorn is good as it is, obviously put it in a suitable container, but also slightly 'stale'. As for other baits, luncheon meat, pepperami, various meat sausages, even chorizo, although I do struggle with that, it's known as Nick loves chorizo to eat... -
Well as purchases go they don't come much more exciting than a new home and a return to my beloved Nene Valley. Carpy in more ways than one; I'll be 3 miles way from the Valley itself and there's also koi to 30lb+ swimming around in the back garden! Offer was accepted on Friday so now I just pray that nothing goes wrong and we're not waiting too long.
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Pepperami luncheon meat hemp maples groats are a really easy particle to prepare and flavour up And gives off a nice milky cloud
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elmoputney started following New water, new rules. Alternative baits
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I would use bigger particles and pellets probably, maize, maples and sweetcorn,
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InteraX started following New water, new rules. Alternative baits
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Hi guys. I've just joined a new club with a water I'm very interested in, but they have a rule for that water that says 'no boilies & no nuts'. I'm not allowed to take tins to the water, so can use sweetcorn, but I'm looking for alternatives that will allow me to focus on the carp. The lake is an old brick works and is very deep (30m/100ft) with an old building and machinery at the bottom, so I'm going to have to try and keep to the margins. It's going to be an interesting water to explore.
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commonly started following June's catch reports
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Bar of gold that mate. Nice photo
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InteraX started following Boilies in hand luggage
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I read their advice at https://help.ryanair.com/hc/en-gb/categories/12502999419409-Permitted-Items-On-Board#What items are prohibited on board and in Check-in Bags? And it looks like you should be ok with Ryanair. Airport security may ask some questions until they find another fisherman. There may be an issue with customs at the far end though. I know it's not food, but check the rules for your destination, otherwise it could get confiscated there.
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greekskii started following Boilies in hand luggage
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That’s a brilliant question. I think you’d be quizzed on them but can’t see why not, you can take food items through.
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Hi can you take boilies through in hand luggage on to Ryan air flight thanks
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Can you take boilies in hand luggage on Ryanair flights
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commonly started following June's expectations vs reality?
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Hi all has anyone fished lake missy in a July, and did you have any problems with the weed growth
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Im pretty much not fishing June, carp are spawning on both lakes not right to go after them and main lake shut for spawning
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A trailer with a running lead could still leave a fish attached to a long trailer, yes it might be minus the lead but the rig is directly tied to the mainline via a swivel, with the hit n run lead clip if you got the same trailer, the rig would come loose as the swivel is free of the mainline,and therefore you will only ever leave the rig attached once the line parts as the fish can move up the mainline and be free of the trailer. It is also a running rig but neater and IMO safer.
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From the crack-off with the swan, it went at the hooklink knot, as it does in the majority of cases. It is normally only if the line gets fragged by snags or detritus does it go anywhere else. The run ring can travel up the line and off. I think every trailer I have found, has been caught up with a semi-fixed lead, usually on a lead clip... I have removed and freed a couple from snags in the past! Yet never found one with a running lead on.
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With a running rig you are still going to leave a trailer attached in the event of a crack off. That's why I am now using the pb ones same benefit of a running rig, but as the fish swims off the rig with swivel will travel up the trailing line and free itself leaving only the rig in its mouth,
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I can't remember where I first bought them, but I had to replace my dwindling stock of run rings and clips. https://www.korum.co.uk/en/products/rig-accessories/kp-00170 I've lost a couple or rigs recently, blooming swans, one swam through the line and tangled up, the other picked up the hookbait, both resulted in losing the lot. On the tangled up loss, it was just after the cast, so the line was still in the clip. The swan swam towards the splash of the PVA bag. I checked the line, and it had gone at the knot. As for the running leads, and slack lines, the two carp this week were absolute screamers. The second carp during the fight I could see the lead on the run ring, and as the fish kicked right, I could see the lead eject off the clip, not losing the run ring, just the standard type clip like the picture. I'm not sure but it may be because I cut the swivel off the leads, and the wire loop can slip between the prong.
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I expect to hardly get on the bank 🤣 My task for this month is to cut around the new ticket a few times with a leading rod and try and locate some fishable spots in all areas of the lake so when I can get on the bank I can drop rods on spots with minimal leading around.