saman Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 Hello and good time I live in Asia and I am very interested in carp I have made different boilies but none of them worked and I failed every time I have several different flavors and all kinds of powders and sweeteners Please give me a good recipe so I can fish I hope you can help me I am really tired of this and I have failed many times If you can't say it here, please enter your email Quote
saman Posted March 21 Author Report Posted March 21 powder: liver powder krill meal powder clo powder lt-94 powder plusma powder robin red hb powder cryfish meal powder mpc powder mpi powder acid casein powder acid citric powder pry Digest powder GLM powder Sweetener: Liquid Thaumatin Talin rod flavor: Bloodworm Strawberries Strawberry cream cream Smoked shrimp monster crab Liquid Shellfish S A sweetcorn squid & octopus scopex condensed milk response Oil: salmon hemp I have this, please help me Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted March 21 Report Posted March 21 2 hours ago, saman said: powder: liver powder krill meal powder clo powder lt-94 powder plusma powder robin red hb powder cryfish meal powder mpc powder mpi powder acid casein powder acid citric powder pry Digest powder GLM powder Sweetener: Liquid Thaumatin Talin rod flavor: Bloodworm Strawberries Strawberry cream cream Smoked shrimp monster crab Liquid Shellfish S A sweetcorn squid & octopus scopex condensed milk response Oil: salmon hemp I have this, please help me Too complicated! Just stick with CLO, liver powder, acid casein, LT94, and add some semolina, (10%), maybe 2grammes of each GLM and krill meal. Any flavour you use, no more than 5ml in 6eggs, and 25millilitres of hemp oil. jules007 and framey 1 1 Quote
saman Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 On 21/03/2025 at 21:41, salokcinnodrog said: Too complicated! Just stick with CLO, liver powder, acid casein, LT94, and add some semolina, (10%), maybe 2grammes of each GLM and krill meal. Any flavour you use, no more than 5ml in 6eggs, and 25millilitres of hemp oil. How much CLO How much liver powder How much acid casein How much LT94 should I add? What kind of filler should I add? I mean essential oil Should I add dmpt ? Do I need to add n-butric too? Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 6 hours ago, saman said: How much CLO How much liver powder How much acid casein How much LT94 should I add? What kind of filler should I add? I mean essential oil Should I add dmpt ? Do I need to add n-butric too? 25% LT94 20% Acid Casein 40% CLO 5% Liver Powder 10% Semolina Mix them at those ratios. Then once mixed for 6 eggs add 5ml of your flavour, 15ml of hemp oil. Add base mix slowly gradually adding until it is right texture to roll. Boil for 1minute 30 seconds, allow to dry. That mix should work, no need for other ingredients. elmoputney 1 Quote
saman Posted March 24 Author Report Posted March 24 1 hour ago, salokcinnodrog said: 25% LT94 20% Acid Casein 40% CLO 5% Liver Powder 10% Semolina Mix them at those ratios. Then once mixed for 6 eggs add 5ml of your flavour, 15ml of hemp oil. Add base mix slowly gradually adding until it is right texture to roll. Boil for 1minute 30 seconds, allow to dry. That mix should work, no need for other ingredients. Thanks for your excellent explanation, just one question. Didn't you say what flavor I should combine these with? I gave some sample flavors Is there a specific flavor? It can't be used for both fruit and protein. Choose one of the flavors and I'll make your combination. Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 2 hours ago, saman said: Thanks for your excellent explanation, just one question. Didn't you say what flavor I should combine these with? I gave some sample flavors Is there a specific flavor? It can't be used for both fruit and protein. Choose one of the flavors and I'll make your combination. There really is no hard and fast rule with flavours, sweet or fruit flavours work with fishmeal, birdfoods or meat, but to 'our' mind they smell wrong, so squid and octopus, shrimp or monster crab will work. The other thing with flavours is the solvent base, some are on glycerine (glycerol), ethyl alcohol, diacetin or propylene glycol, and each one reacts slightly differently in water. Propylene glycol is a flavour base used normally in cake flavours, so suited for high temperature. Ethyl alcohol is more soluble in water, so 'spreads' through the water. Glycerine is the usual flavour base for cake icing, but I think is an attractor in its own right, and a preservative. Diacetin is actually synthesised from glycerine and quite possibly the most acceptable to fish. jh92 and elmoputney 2 Quote
jh92 Posted March 24 Report Posted March 24 5 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: There really is no hard and fast rule with flavours, sweet or fruit flavours work with fishmeal, birdfoods or meat, but to 'our' mind they smell wrong, so squid and octopus, shrimp or monster crab will work. The other thing with flavours is the solvent base, some are on glycerine (glycerol), ethyl alcohol, diacetin or propylene glycol, and each one reacts slightly differently in water. Propylene glycol is a flavour base used normally in cake flavours, so suited for high temperature. Ethyl alcohol is more soluble in water, so 'spreads' through the water. Glycerine is the usual flavour base for cake icing, but I think is an attractor in its own right, and a preservative. Diacetin is actually synthesised from glycerine and quite possibly the most acceptable to fish. I've always liked making fishmeal baits with fish/spice flavours and sweet flavours with a nut/milk bait only because that's what seems right in my head lol. I remember someone saying that flavours have caught more fishermen than carp 🤣 salokcinnodrog 1 Quote
saman Posted March 25 Author Report Posted March 25 18 hours ago, salokcinnodrog said: 25% LT94 20% Acid Casein 40% CLO 5% Liver Powder 10% Semolina Mix them at those ratios. Then once mixed for 6 eggs add 5ml of your flavour, 15ml of hemp oil. Add base mix slowly gradually adding until it is right texture to roll. Boil for 1minute 30 seconds, allow to dry. That mix should work, no need for other ingredients. I made it, but I also added pop powder wafter I made it salokcinnodrog, kevtaylor and jh92 3 Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted March 25 Report Posted March 25 14 hours ago, jh92 said: I've always liked making fishmeal baits with fish/spice flavours and sweet flavours with a nut/milk bait only because that's what seems right in my head lol. I remember someone saying that flavours have caught more fishermen than carp 🤣 It's probably true. There are some flavours that really are out and out smells rather anything else and to the carp are all the same. I've never done really well on strawberry, I don't like the taste or smell, it tastes and smells artificial to me, as a result I've rarely used it, so self perpetuating. A mate of mine did do really well on the old Strawberry, cream and bergamot mix. I used to go through the flavour shelf at work, mostly Nutrabaits, and many tasted the same, raspberry, strawberry, cranberry. Then we have others I have done really well on, Megaspice, Ultraspice by Hutchy, Peach Nutrafruit, Liver Elite, and a few more. 5 hours ago, saman said: I made it, but I also added pop powder wafter I made it They look good. jh92 1 Quote
saman Posted April 5 Author Report Posted April 5 I haven't been for a while, I tested and unfortunately I didn't get an answer, I asked people who make boilies and have good fishing and they replied that the bait has a lot of protein The bait protein should be below 30% or was this the problem or something else but unfortunately I didn't get a good answer In our area Corn Bloodworm Strawberries Creamy strawberries It's good and everyone uses it Quote
salokcinnodrog Posted April 5 Report Posted April 5 6 hours ago, saman said: I haven't been for a while, I tested and unfortunately I didn't get an answer, I asked people who make boilies and have good fishing and they replied that the bait has a lot of protein The bait protein should be below 30% or was this the problem or something else but unfortunately I didn't get a good answer In our area Corn Bloodworm Strawberries Creamy strawberries It's good and everyone uses it There are some baits that will work no matter what. Maize, corn, sweetcorn, bloodworm and other worms, even maggots are instant. Boilies are not the instant answer as it can take time for fish to find them, not every fish will eat boilies, or even will test every one because it is different. In terms of protein percentage 30% is almost perfect, the boilies and recipe look good. The location you put them in may be wrong, you may have put too many in for the conditions, long and short term. I don't know the weather or season where you are, it's spring in Northern Hemisphere, but round Asia to Europe, current temperatures are widely differing, some still close to freezing, some reaching 25⁰C. Quote
framey Posted April 6 Report Posted April 6 (edited) On 05/04/2025 at 01:11, saman said: I haven't been for a while, I tested and unfortunately I didn't get an answer, I asked people who make boilies and have good fishing and they replied that the bait has a lot of protein The bait protein should be below 30% or was this the problem or something else but unfortunately I didn't get a good answer In our area Corn Bloodworm Strawberries Creamy strawberries It's good and everyone uses it Keep making the same and keep putting it in start of with less and in areas you can see once it starts being eaten put more in you can’t say a bait is bad from one session Edited April 6 by framey Quote
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