elmoputney Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Hi guys I am planning to do some longer distance lead chucking this winter and was thinking I might want to use a leader? I'm ordering some 17lb katran line 0.33mm and was thinking of using either a tapered mono leader or shock leader to make it easier and less crackoffy. Which one would you go for? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 I use the ESP tapered mono shock-leaders for my big water. They've been around forever and admittedly I'm a bit of a dinosaur when I find tackle I trust - I hate to change. They do the job and are very reliable. Don't discount an even finer mainline to get the most out of the leader. I've gone as low as 0.28 without issues. Obviously it all depends on how weedy your water is. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted October 15 Author Report Share Posted October 15 36 minutes ago, yonny said: I use the ESP tapered mono shock-leaders for my big water. They've been around forever and admittedly I'm a bit of a dinosaur when I find tackle I trust - I hate to change. They do the job and are very reliable. Don't discount an even finer mainline to get the most out of the leader. I've gone as low as 0.28 without issues. Obviously it all depends on how weedy your water is. Thanks that's good to know I had looked at those I quite liked the fact they came at the right length too, I don't want to go too thin on Mainline because of weed, normally I use that in 0.37mm and it doesn't cast awfully so I am hopeful I can make up the distance by dropping down one size. I just want the leader for a crisper feeling cast really and the confidence to whack it a bit harder. yonny 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 2 hours ago, elmoputney said: Hi guys I am planning to do some longer distance lead chucking this winter and was thinking I might want to use a leader? I'm ordering some 17lb katran line 0.33mm and was thinking of using either a tapered mono leader or shock leader to make it easier and less crackoffy. Which one would you go for? For years I've used 30lb Amnesia in black or clear or 40lb Drennan Grey Greased Weasel. The clear Amnesia is not as supple as the dyed versions. Like @yonny I'm a dinosaur, if it works stick with it, although I have tried using tapered leaders, for carp and sea fishing and for some reason I kept on cracking off, so went back to the straight leaders. I would say that it might have been my knots, but my mate Allan tied a few up for me, but I had the same issue, while he had no problems with long casting. The other advantage is that I can go longer than the 4 turns on the reel and casting drop, I normally have around 5 or 6. I also use them on my Spod/marker rod to braid. Point to note, as I have mentioned to Yonny in the past, if there are snags or weed I won't use a leader as I don't like the risk of leaving a leader that the lead and rig can't be ejected if you crack-off. With weed caught around the knot even a run ring can't come off over it. Again like Yonny I've gone finer than 12lb; for years we used 8lb line (Sylcast or Maxima) with leaders on 2¼ or 2¾lb test curve rods. It's probably only since the 1990's that lines rated 15lb or more got used for carp fishing. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Sylcast there’s a blast from the past lol gold label- man in a hat. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Had to go an check lol salokcinnodrog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted October 15 Author Report Share Posted October 15 (edited) 2 hours ago, framey said: Sylcast there’s a blast from the past lol gold label- man in a hat. You could buy it with green shield stamps it's that old 😂 Edited October 15 by elmoputney crusian and salokcinnodrog 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted October 15 Report Share Posted October 15 Old enough for that lol.. I also remember raffles fags doing Argos tokens. I’m a bit too young for players though I think lol elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Higham1987 Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 23 hours ago, elmoputney said: Hi guys I am planning to do some longer distance lead chucking this winter and was thinking I might want to use a leader? I'm ordering some 17lb katran line 0.33mm and was thinking of using either a tapered mono leader or shock leader to make it easier and less crackoffy. Which one would you go for? What I had on before I sold em (Crypton) was actually quite thick for 0.33 I thought but did cast quote well. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted October 16 Author Report Share Posted October 16 22 hours ago, framey said: Old enough for that lol.. I also remember raffles fags doing Argos tokens. I’m a bit too young for players though I think lol I did actually used to use 8lb Sylcast I am that old lol, I used to use it with my 9ft ledger rod when freelining dog biscuits and all that fun stuff you forget about as you get older. 7 hours ago, Higham1987 said: What I had on before I sold em (Crypton) was actually quite thick for 0.33 I thought but did cast quote well. I couldn't wait for mail order, so I nipped to the tackle shop and got some 12lb gt80+ That should do the job. What's the betting I end up fishing about 6 wraps out this weekend now😳 Higham1987 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted October 16 Report Share Posted October 16 1 hour ago, elmoputney said: I did actually used to use 8lb Sylcast I am that old lol, I used to use it with my 9ft ledger rod when freelining dog biscuits and all that fun stuff you forget about as you get older. I am also that old, that it was on my stalking and floater rod as well as on my static rods, North Western 12ft 2¼ and Century Armalite 2¼'s. 47 minutes ago, elmoputney said: I couldn't wait for mail order, so I nipped to the tackle shop and got some 12lb gt80+ That should do the job. What's the betting I end up fishing about 6 wraps out this weekend now😳 I still end up fishing 5 rod lengths out quite frequently. I used to spend a lot of time fishing at long distances, but now normally fish a lot less, although there are a couple of swims on the syndicate where a long cast is handy at certain times of the year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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