pablo7uk Posted October 24, 2021 Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 On 28/07/2021 at 22:55, elmoputney said: Got a pack of these in the post today, couldn't resist when I saw them, quite sharp out the pack tbh, I think they could be a useful pattern, I've gone from preferring straight point hooks to buying beak points recently, kranks and klors will hopefully catch more 😳 I also got a 2nd magnet for my tackle box just means I can now easily store boom sections ready to go I am also into stiff boom section rigs at the moment, 😳 Now all I need is for the pups to start behaving or I am never going fishing again 😂 What are your thoughts on the klor so far? Wondered about giving them a go - I mainly use either a Ronnie rig, 360 rig or line aligner combi elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted October 24, 2021 Report Share Posted October 24, 2021 4 minutes ago, pablo7uk said: What are your thoughts on the klor so far? Wondered about giving them a go - I mainly use either a Ronnie rig, 360 rig or line aligner combi I thought they were OK tbh no major probs I did slightly open one out with a fish but I think that may have been because of all the weed and stuff, and having to bully it a little bit, in normal situations would be good I think, I am mainly using krank x's for Ronnie's at the minute pablo7uk 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Look like Gardner Mugga's to me Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, bluelabel said: Look like Gardner Mugga's to me Pretty similar but they have a beaked point Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 1 hour ago, elmoputney said: Pretty similar but they have a beaked point Hmmm... does the beaked point, the curve of the shank, and the angle the line exits the eye, not close off the point... I always have it in my head that its closing off the whole hook to the point that its harder to penetrate a lip... just my take on it... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 55 minutes ago, bluelabel said: Hmmm... does the beaked point, the curve of the shank, and the angle the line exits the eye, not close off the point... I always have it in my head that its closing off the whole hook to the point that its harder to penetrate a lip... just my take on it... I have never really bought into the curve of the hook or tubing closing off the hook preventing penetration. That would make some very effective rigs 'not work', like the bent hook rigs, Withy pool rig, even the standard kickers or line aligner as well as curved shank hooks. I can understand the beaked point being used on gravel to try to reduce the chances of the point being burred over. Rigs incorporating line aligners on Gardner Muggas and on straight shank patterns have worked very well for me over years and years of use. elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
elmoputney Posted October 25, 2021 Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 4 hours ago, bluelabel said: Hmmm... does the beaked point, the curve of the shank, and the angle the line exits the eye, not close off the point... I always have it in my head that its closing off the whole hook to the point that its harder to penetrate a lip... just my take on it... The klor, was designed so it flipped easy without shrink tubing on pick up, I understand your theory about closing it off and for a long time I agreed with you, but since using the krank I have to say I've had some pretty good hook holds and I don't tend to worry so much, 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo7uk Posted October 25, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 25, 2021 Don't think I'll bother purchasing any then if they are just a curve shank without the need for line aligner. I think I have more confidence in that little bit of shrink tube Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 8 hours ago, pablo7uk said: Don't think I'll bother purchasing any then if they are just a curve shank without the need for line aligner. I think I have more confidence in that little bit of shrink tube Danny Fairbrass once said curved shank hooks don't need a line aligner, yet I personally found that some fish were able to eject the rig on curved hooks without it. This was where I was able to watch the fish picking up and ejecting the hook and bait, in an area where few people fished. I add a line aligner to every bottom or snowman bait rig now, whether straight or curved shank. The shank length extension and the line aligner I believe reduces ejection. Some fish will still get away with it, but hooking I think is improved Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pablo7uk Posted October 26, 2021 Author Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 I agree I've done well with curved shank hooked with the addition of a line aligner. I guess the klor takes it one step further than a standard curve shank and that's it's selling point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 On 25/10/2021 at 10:58, bluelabel said: Hmmm... does the beaked point, the curve of the shank, and the angle the line exits the eye, not close off the point... I always have it in my head that its closing off the whole hook to the point that its harder to penetrate a lip... just my take on it... Had the very same conversations on here in the past blue , I'm of the same thinking. & wouldn't use a line aligner on curve shank hooks . A good chance of missing out on the better fish as a result imo . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 Depends on the eye and if it’s turned in as well I think a mugga and say…. an esp curve are completely different animals chillfactor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted October 26, 2021 Report Share Posted October 26, 2021 1 hour ago, framey said: Depends on the eye and if it’s turned in as well I think a mugga and say…. an esp curve are completely different animals Agree with that.... definitely depends on the certain pattern. If you look at the quoted picture top of this thread. The hook point & eye are in a straight line to each other.... if you stick a line aligner on that it sets the point back to far for the rig mechanics to work effectively. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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