What type of fish

[Nube]

What type of fish would you say these are?Always catch these pretty little things  on a wild pond up in the mendips ,float fishing to maggots and worms. The are a lovely gold to bronze colour and always this size

[ouchthathurt]

They appear to be crucians or crosses of some sort, I’d say goldfish/crucian crosses. The heads and body shapes are slightly off for true crucians, but they readily interbreed with goldfish. Difficult to say though, do they have barbules? 

[Nube]

No barbules 

[framey]

https://www.crucians.org/html/identification.php

 

i think I counted 28 across the lateral line

[Carpmaster]

8 hours ago, Nube said:

What type of fish would you say these are?Always catch these pretty little things  on a wild pond up in the mendips ,float fishing to maggots and worms. The are a lovely gold to bronze colour and always this size

They look like a little crusian carp I might be wrong but that’s what they look like to me

[kevtaylor]

On 28/02/2021 at 19:58, Nube said:

What type of fish would you say these are?Always catch these pretty little things  on a wild pond up in the mendips ,float fishing to maggots and worms. The are a lovely gold to bronze colour and always this size

Look like normal Common Carp to me - definitely not Crusians as their fins are convex (outwardly curved) not concave like you see in the middle picture.

They could be a match type hybred F1 or whatever they are called which are stunted in growth.

[salokcinnodrog]

On 28/02/2021 at 19:58, Nube said:

What type of fish would you say these are?Always catch these pretty little things  on a wild pond up in the mendips ,float fishing to maggots and worms. The are a lovely gold to bronze colour and always this size

Definitely in the carassius family, but could be hybrids between crucian and goldfish. 

 

Not sure that they are f1 hybrids as Kevtaylor suggests, it would depend on whether there are carp in the water. The other thing is f1's do have barbules, albeit tiny

Lateral line scales for crucian is 32-34, for goldfish 29 so anything different should identify them

 

https://www.crucians.org/html/crucian_hybrids.php#:~:text=(1) The Crucian × Common Carp Hybrid or "F1"&text=It occurs naturally in the,on quite a large scale.&text=In this hybrid the lateral,to a crucian's 32 - 34.

 

 

[Carpmaster]

5 minutes ago, salokcinnodrog said:

Definitely in the carassius family, but could be hybrids between crucian and goldfish. 

 

Not sure that they are f1 hybrids as Kevtaylor suggests, it would depend on whether there are carp in the water. The other thing is f1's do have barbules, albeit tiny

Lateral line scales for crucian is 32-34, for goldfish 29 so anything different should identify them

 

https://www.crucians.org/html/crucian_hybrids.php#:~:text=(1) The Crucian × Common Carp Hybrid or "F1"&text=It occurs naturally in the,on quite a large scale.&text=In this hybrid the lateral,to a crucian's 32 - 34.

 

 

Good little debate this 

[ouchthathurt]

In John Wilson’s carp fishing guide, (available on kindle) he describes F1’s as being a cross between crucians and king carp, the end result apparently produces a fully scaled fish with smaller barbules and a deeper body shape. They are also resistant to KHV and feed all year round. 

[Carpmaster]

1 minute ago, ouchthathurt said:

In John Wilson’s carp fishing guide, (available on kindle) he describes F1’s as being a cross between crucians and king carp, the end result apparently produces a fully scaled fish with smaller barbules and a deeper body shape. They are also resistant to KHV and feed all year round. 

So everyone is a bit right lol

[framey]

Send the picture to the fish commitee or someone like that and ask them 

or you could ask dr Paul garner he has a Facebook page of him in a hat and holding a tench.

 

I think it’s a comet goldfish personally

Edited March 9, 2021 by framey