Carpmaster Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just finished new batch of freebies and hookbaits ready to be steamed I boil the freebies but steam my hookbaits Ark79 and dayvid 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpbell_ll Posted July 15, 2020 Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 What are they? those in the bottom pic look a bit out the ordinary. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Just chunks of boilie mix instead of rolling they eat the boilies which I use to just give em a taste I'm only using the others as hookbaits only Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 Steaming away an smell amazing Ark79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 15, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 15, 2020 I'll use a few of these Friday the rest will go in a juice and in the freezer till needed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 16, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 16, 2020 Looking forward to going fishing friday put another piece of the puzzle together Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted July 17, 2020 Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 As much as I like 'rare' shaped hookbaits, I do tend to just grab a boilie out of the bag and stick it on the hook, simply because I now get my bait direct from RH rather than make my own. I have caught on various specials; massive cube boilies, sausages boiled then cut into discs, boilie mix rolled flat and then cut with a playdoh cutter (Bart Simpson), cut down boilies, uncooked air dried boilie mix, then obviously the boiled brick cut into cubes. Ark79 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 17, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 17, 2020 I've used the tactic to good effect in the past and since I've been having a walk an talk with the guys they all use 18mm so just went different. Another blank but still learnt a few things salokcinnodrog 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 21, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 21, 2020 Off tomorrow another day a new wind another try I'll keep you up to date guys wont be able to post till I get back tight lines anyone whose wetting a line guys 🎣🐟😉 elmoputney 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 23, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 23, 2020 Morning guys after walking there and 3 laps found them where I expected on the fresh wind after the 3 lap still there I put one on the bottom one on a zig nothing put a zig crust out 4ft below surface looking really good then a blooming tufty had to get involved that was that nothing they'd moved out to not make an appearance till I had to pack up and I would of moved but it's a public park lake and was packed so wasnt really an option I love camping I do 😃😃 crusian and commonly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Next batch these are going in on a patrol route I found with the fishspy it's like looking at a roundabout with junctions off it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa22 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) I admire your patience, the most adventurous I get is making barrels but then I do have a Machine Edited July 27, 2020 by Gaffa22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
framey Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 10 hours ago, Carpmaster said: Next batch these are going in on a patrol route I found with the fishspy it's like looking at a roundabout with junctions off it Looks like a steamer to me .... I’ll get me coat.... Carpmaster 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 lol that is a steamer I meant the boilies are going on a patrol route I found lol I've got a rolling table but dont use it I want the baits to be different from each other Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 10 minutes ago, Gaffa22 said: I admire your patience, the most adventurous I get is making barrels but then I do have a Machine Tidy looking mix that gaffa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa22 Posted July 27, 2020 Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 (edited) It should look tidy it’s Cell 😀 I used to make all my own base mix’s but then I was rolling 200 kg for 4 of us now I just roll for myself I buy ready made base’s It’s more expensive but I still manage to roll top end bait for £4.25 a kilo Edited July 27, 2020 by Gaffa22 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 27, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 27, 2020 Lol I've not got a set up like that lol just a hand table lol but the base mix is my own lol I've been doing it for yrs I started using fusion yrs ago then found I could get my own ingredients and haven't looked back 😀😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa22 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 I started the other way round, there were no base mix’s when I started or ready made boilies come to that. so I spent many years trying to come up with the ultimate recipe, then I started working with a few like minded mates, we were buying ingredients in 25 kilo sacks and 15 dozen eggs at a time. Eventually a couple of the mates gave up fishing so I was back on my own, I had come to realise there was no such thing as the ultimate base mix, all the theories and scientific papers I have read over the years can be debunked in a real fishing situation. Even Fred Wilton’s HNV theory is full of holes. So as satisfying as it is making it all yourself, I no longer see any advantage in doing the base mix’s. I do prefer to roll them myself as most commercially made baits are boiled too long and are too hard. I can also tweak the additives and add my own little special tweaks. I think what you are doing is great and perfect for an intimate water where you can watch the fish and see the patrol routes and their reaction to your different shapes, I’m currently fishing a large windswept gravel pit where I need to use quite a bit of bait to pull them down and hold them in a swim. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Hi gaffa I understand exactly what your saying I make my own baits just to be different the size and shape is just to overcome the tench and bream so the carp can find them at least. I'm fishing a large park lake with it's own weather system lol (Seriously dont listen to the weatherman) it gets filled in with particles and alot of the guys are using the same bait company and having their baits rolled for them, I dont use no flavours etc I give mine a really good air dry so they're like rocks then rehydrate with a little lake water and special k from baf I know the carp are eating them I'm ashamed to say I'm yet to land one, the weed is at least 10 -11 feet In the spots I've found that no one seems to be fishing its mostly deeper and bait boats I've been using a fishspy to find feed and check spots which are looking like a polished table if I'm honest fingers crossed I'm off tomorrow new reel loaded with new braid for the one rod the other my usual gr line both drop off system. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpepecheur Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Gaffa22 said: , I had come to realise there was no such thing as the ultimate base mix, all the theories and scientific papers I have read over the years can be debunked in a real fishing situation. Even Fred Wilton’s HNV theory is full of holes. I agree with you. After the usual experimenting with various idea "following the science" I settled for the PeteB mix. I would have sworn it was the bees knees until the local Decathlon sold a load of no name Monster Crab that was out of date for under €2 per kilo. I couldn't make my bait for that price. The rod I tested it on did just as well as my other rods. Now I use the cheapest I can find but pre bait very often and quite heavily. Again this is on large and hardly fished open waters where location and quantity is the key. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa22 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 I used the PeteB mix and my variations of it for quite some time, I still have several kilos of belachan block kicking about 😀. Were you on the black forum carpepecheur ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpepecheur Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Yes I still have some Belechan too and yes I was on the black forum and rather miss it. There seem to be several survivors on here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gaffa22 Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 Yes indeed there were some characters on there, and some great discussions on bait Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carpmaster Posted July 28, 2020 Author Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 I do enjoy a discussion on bait I know I dont use manmade smells or flavours but I do use natural ingredients like prawn tuna garlic turmeric paprika etc any of you guys used naturals like this is your bait your bound to have what's your views etc I do understand and know that they may not stay fresh as long once defrosted etc Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carpepecheur Posted July 28, 2020 Report Share Posted July 28, 2020 The best natural bait that I use is crayfish. Freshly caught and mashed up into the ground bait mix it can be particularly effective. It is also a good hookbait but illegal in France. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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