martyn74 Posted July 4, 2020 Report Posted July 4, 2020 I've made similar in the past still use them. I got heckled on here years ago "why would you". the inital hooking weight but instead of the lead clip, i had it go as a running rig, help reduce being done by the clip and weight. Quote
Carpmaster Posted July 4, 2020 Report Posted July 4, 2020 On 23/02/2020 at 17:03, Old school said: Just removed this from a ducks beak! Poor thing couldn't lift its head, Surely theres no need for a contraption like this? Bad angling Quote
bluelabel Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 I got rid of my COG leads.... they didn't do what they're supposed to, and they are not a safe rig, as the picture shows Quote
yonny Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 5 minutes ago, bluelabel said: they are not a safe rig, as the picture shows Can I ask what is unsafe about them that doesn't apply to any other lead clip on the market? Quote
bluelabel Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 The end of the swivel didn't always detatch from the lead as its supposed to... and as for not being as safe as a lead clip... I don't use those either... inline or running only for me Quote
carpepecheur Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 I understand the theory of a COG lead. i am not convinced it is the way to go but if I did, I think the Fox version is much simpler and safer. commonly 1 Quote
yonny Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, bluelabel said: The end of the swivel didn't always detatch from the lead as its supposed to... and as for not being as safe as a lead clip... I don't use those either... inline or running only for me I think it's a case of the swivel being pushed into the lead too tightly. Same as a lot of guys do with tail rubbers. Imo it's the anglers fault, not the gear. commonly 1 Quote
bluelabel Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 I'll stick with what I know and have confidence in... I've not had any issues and I'm fairly certain that in the times where I have been broken (very few) The fish isn't towing a lead of mine round...👍 Quote
yonny Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 1 minute ago, bluelabel said: I'll stick with what I know and have confidence in... I'm not trying to convince you otherwise mate. I have never and will never use a cog, I'm just saying I do not believe them to be unsafe. Any rig can be unsafe if it's set up badly. Quote
bluelabel Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 I went with the instrctions on the pack, had a fish on one and the swivel hadn't detached... so I set up the swivel so it pulled out easily on the bank, dropped it in the water and tried it and the swivel hung up under the water.... never used it again... never a fan of lead clips either, the hookbait can move a long way before it registers on the bobbin... probably the same for an inline and deffo true for an old school lead on the line... but I'm happier using them over a clip any day Quote
yonny Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, bluelabel said: I went with the instrctions on the pack, had a fish on one and the swivel hadn't detached... So your intent was to ditch the lead on the take? Failure to ditch the lead on the take is not a safety issue imo. It's annoying if that is your intent, but not imo unsafe. The purpose of lead clips is to ditch the lead if it becomes snagged. If it can do that then for me it is safe. Quote
bluelabel Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 I meant so that the short swivel detached from the lead during fight which it did not , this meant that the lead was still attached to the end game at 2 points, making the whole system potentially dangerous... I've never been a fan of ditching the lead in any circumstance other than safety... I can understand the concept of the COG system, but its execution was flawed... yonny 1 Quote
yonny Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 21 minutes ago, bluelabel said: the lead was still attached to the end game at 2 points, making the whole system potentially dangerous... I think we'll have to agree to disagree buddy. I have no desire to to use them but imho they are not dangerous when set up correctly. Quote
bluelabel Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 (edited) Therein lies the point Yonny... even when set up properly (which it was) the lead was still attached at 2 points after the fish was landed... if my mainline had snapped above the lead I wouldn't like to think of he consequences... its not a case of agreeing or disagreeing... the cog system is flawed... it could certainly be better executed Edited July 6, 2020 by bluelabel Quote
yonny Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 2 minutes ago, bluelabel said: even when set up properly (which it was) the lead was still attached at 2 points after the fish was landed... So? The purpose of lead clips is to ditch the lead if it becomes snagged. Quote
bluelabel Posted July 6, 2020 Report Posted July 6, 2020 And it should be easy to do so... however 2 points of attachment should the line break above the lead is not a good concept... I'm out as I'll not use that system... and as you've stated, you have no desire to either, so its a moot point but for different reasons yonny 1 Quote
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