Dicky123 Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 (edited) Just wondered if anyone thinks this version is worth the extra money. And are the blanks a different material to the standard Sawn off Scopes? I know the rings are supposed to be a better quality, but for a six foot rod £220+ seems a lot compared with other rods about like Free Spirit and Harrison? Just asking as i love the look of them in all honesty. Edited June 7, 2019 by Dicky123 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Look on the bay of e.... scopes new are hideously expensive... my young padawan got one for a ton then he broke the tip on it... they are known for being a tad fragile... in all honesty you'll get a better product from free spirit... think it's called a tree creeper...? not sure... but it's a lovely rod... I have a pair of Dwarf 9' 2.75 lbs and there's not a great deal of difference between those and the same poundage and length in the scopes... pays yer money and takes yer choice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky123 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Blue. I own several Scopes and love them to be honest, everyone has a unique playing action I like, from the 1.75 to the 3lb and 2lb swan off. But I just wondered if the blanks on the Black ops were better, or different. They should be for all that money. Thanks. Rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 I had a fumble with one in Angling direct a few months back.... for the extra money I wasn't impressed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 The black ops blanks are a higher grade than the standard scopes, along with the ringing and reel seats etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky123 Posted June 7, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 Nige. Do you know anything about the blank in question regarding quality please? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted June 7, 2019 Report Share Posted June 7, 2019 What do you want to know? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky123 Posted June 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 8, 2019 How much lighter is it compared to the standard saw off scope? Are the blanks stiffer, or just the same, and is the blank profile thinner. How much weight difference would the high grade rings make overall? Are they less lightly to break due to the blank quality? Thanks be great to know Nigellas at that price and as i cannot get to see one right now.😀😀 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 On 07/06/2019 at 14:42, Dicky123 said: Just wondered if anyone thinks this version is worth the extra money. And are the blanks a different material to the standard Sawn off Scopes? I know the rings are supposed to be a better quality, but for a six foot rod £220+ seems a lot compared with other rods about like Free Spirit and Harrison? Just asking as i love the look of them in all honesty. You could get the Freespirit Creeper for half the price - no brainer surely? oscsha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky123 Posted June 10, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 Is it 6' and a 3lb test curve? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 10, 2019 Report Share Posted June 10, 2019 9 minutes ago, Dicky123 said: Is it 6' and a 3lb test curve? Yeah it is (Hi-S Tree Creeper) 6ft 3lb - considerably cheaper than the Nash things 👍 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky123 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Thanks, But its a 6' I really want for some swims i fish currently. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oscsha Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Not sure if its possible ,but you really need to handle some to compare them . I've always found rods a personal thing although it does look like you had already made your mind up before asking the question . kevtaylor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dicky123 Posted June 11, 2019 Author Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 Oscsha. No honest, I'm more thinking now about the standard Scope saw off 3lb 6' at £109. I really wanted to understand that if paid twice the price would I be getting twice the rod? I don't mind spending that much if it's worth it, but it seems by all feedback from people that have seen them, they are not. However no-one seems to actually own one and felt it as your suggesting i should. Sadly no shops near me stock the blooming thing. Do you get my drift now buddy? Rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yonny Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 When they released the black ops it was advertised as "a stripped out ultra light Special Forces edition". They've changed it now so it says what they actually are but I remember thinking how only a 9 yr old could possibly be intrigued by them. oscsha 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 1 hour ago, Dicky123 said: Oscsha. No honest, I'm more thinking now about the standard Scope saw off 3lb 6' at £109. I really wanted to understand that if paid twice the price would I be getting twice the rod? I don't mind spending that much if it's worth it, but it seems by all feedback from people that have seen them, they are not. However no-one seems to actually own one and felt it as your suggesting i should. Sadly no shops near me stock the blooming thing. Do you get my drift now buddy? Rich. That’s the thing mate..... speak to someone who has actually used them and had experience of them😎 Donnygooner and kevtaylor 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bluelabel Posted June 11, 2019 Report Share Posted June 11, 2019 TBH if you have looked at the Sawn Off range, ask yourself if a Black Ops is worth £120 more for a bit less resin (lighter weight) and some fancy lightweight rings.... to my mind a lot of the Scope/lack ops stuff is a bit Emperors New Clothes.... (despite me owning a pair of Dwarf's) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 On 11/06/2019 at 14:27, nigewoodcock said: That’s the thing mate..... speak to someone who has actually used them and had experience of them😎 Then buy Freespirit lol oscsha and nigewoodcock 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 1 hour ago, kevtaylor said: Then buy Freespirit lol Ha!!! 😛 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kevtaylor Posted June 12, 2019 Report Share Posted June 12, 2019 10 minutes ago, nigewoodcock said: Ha!!! 😛 Lol 🤣😘😘😘 nigewoodcock 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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