alake223_05 Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 So I’m a carp fisherman here in the United States, NE region. The majority of my method mix, groundbait, packbait, stuff for pre-baitin, whatever you call it is made of oats, flavoring, (usually jello packets!) sweet corn, and sometimes bird seed. I have been able to find large bags of oats and bird seed at the local feed store and I was wondering if I can use deer/feed corn? I’ve seen people say you have to boil it??? What does this do, I’m assuming make it soft, but if I just want to use it for chumming do I need to? As I won’t need to put it on a hair... any information on this and other potential good mixes of any kind would be appreciated! (New here btw) The exact bag at the local feed store is featured in the image Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commonly Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 The reason for boiling & soaking for 24hrs is digestion by the fish. Possibly also releasing the natural oils, attractants. There's far more knowlagable members on here to fill in the blanks. Over hear its reffered to as particle mix. Loose feed rather than chumming, which makes me think of Jaws!! 😎 Ive used particles in the past but it tends to attract nuisance species, so tend to just use boilies for my quarry! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 @alake223_05 Welcome to Carp.com. I think from the packing, it is what we refer to as maize in the UK. To use it it needs soaking for 24 hours then boiling for around 20 minutes. A good bait as a mass feed and as a hookbait. commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buzzbomb Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 I buy whole corn as well, and usually mix it with a few other grains and pulses before soaking and cooking. If you aren't going to use the kernels for hookbait (and it is great bait), you can cut out the soak time by buying rolled corn instead, and just bringing it to a boil then cooking on medium for an hour. commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alake223_05 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 Thanks for the quick responses guys! But can someone explain to me why it needs to be boilied, I know it makes it soft but I’m not using it for a hookbait so i don’t particularly need it to be soft??? Also what about cracked corn, does that need to be boiled etc.? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snowmanstevo Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 It needs to be boiled mate it unsafe otherwise it can swell in the fish and kill it. commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alake223_05 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 1 hour ago, snowmanstevo said: It needs to be boiled mate it unsafe otherwise it can swell in the fish and kill it. Ah! That’s why! I never realized that, I appreciate it man, I don’t want fish popping up dead in my swim commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 If you only want to feed it, buy flaked maize [micronized] as there is no need to cook it as its already cooked. chillfactor and snowmanstevo 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alake223_05 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 39 minutes ago, levigsp said: If you only want to feed it, buy flaked maize [micronized] as there is no need to cook it as its already cooked. Okay, would that be like cracked corn or... I’m not sure what you mean? Maybe this (see attached image) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commonly Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 5 hours ago, buzzbomb said: I buy whole corn as well, and usually mix it with a few other grains and pulses before soaking and cooking. If you aren't going to use the kernels for hookbait (and it is great bait), you can cut out the soak time by buying rolled corn instead, and just bringing it to a boil then cooking on medium for an hour. 36 minutes ago, alake223_05 said: Okay, would that be like cracked corn or... I’m not sure what you mean? Maybe this (see attached image) Buzz is on your side of the Atlantic my man, his wording & understanding of your products should help. With corn, maize cracked, flaked. If it's hard, boil & soak it buddy!! You can't go wrong, better to be 100% safe, we take fish safety very seriously this side of the pond. What strain of carp are you catching?? What kind of size are you getting?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alake223_05 Posted March 8, 2019 Author Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 6 minutes ago, commonly said: Buzz is on your side of the Atlantic my man, his wording & understanding of your products should help. With corn, maize cracked, flaked. If it's hard, boil & soak it buddy!! You can't go wrong, better to be 100% safe, we take fish safety very seriously this side of the pond. What strain of carp are you catching?? What kind of size are you getting?? Yah, I take fish health seriously too my friend, don’t want fish poppin up dead... here up north I can get into the 10-15 range commons without a fit, down in Texas I was able to get in the 15-20 not to hard both with commons and grass. Unfortunately no pretty mirrors here, or if there are they are few and far between! commonly 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
commonly Posted March 8, 2019 Report Share Posted March 8, 2019 Good stuff mate. I hope they give you a good fight. Grass carp are awesome looking, but I'd be happy if I only ever caught commons!, lovely dark bars of gold Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 11 hours ago, alake223_05 said: Okay, would that be like cracked corn or... I’m not sure what you mean? Maybe this (see attached image) No that's not right. Micronized corn looks like cornflakes, it is used in lots of mixed feeds for dogs, horses, sheep, cattle etc. It looks like corn flakes! its precooked to help release all the goodness and the rolled and dried. Many thousands of tonnes are fed to carp asis every year. But if in doubt soak and boil!. If you re boil micronized corn you lose all the sweetness, protein etc. chillfactor 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chillfactor Posted March 9, 2019 Report Share Posted March 9, 2019 Like a few have mentioned see if you can get hold if micronised flaked Maize Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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