sterry Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Probably a complete newbie question !!! so i have warned you !, i know you need to sink the float to the right depth so its under the surface but would you do this by plummeting your depth like you do when your course fishing , but when stalking oviously you walk about so every baited area might be different depth, or have i completly got confused on this set up some help would be greatly appreciated ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keenook Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 With the "lift method" you can always fish over depth, by this I mean if you know the general depth of the swim then set the float to the max depth! Then cast, sink the line, place rod on sticks and wind down until just the sight bob is visible, Drennan windbeaters are great floats for this type of fishing, when you get a take the float will either pop up or disapear Good luck! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Place a big shot a couple of inch from the hook and attach the float via bands. This allows you to adjust the depth easily when needed. My prefered float for this type of fishing is a short clear waggler, around 4 inchs long. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keenook Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Place a big shot a couple of inch from the hook and attach the float via bands. This allows you to adjust the depth easily when needed.My prefered float for this type of fishing is a short clear waggler, around 4 inchs long. So not a "windbeater" with a huge bouyant lower body, that will shoot strait up when the shot is displaced? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Place a big shot a couple of inch from the hook and attach the float via bands. This allows you to adjust the depth easily when needed.My prefered float for this type of fishing is a short clear waggler, around 4 inchs long. So not a "windbeater" with a huge bouyant lower body, that will shoot strait up when the shot is displaced? Not in the shallow areas I fish for tench Kev. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keenook Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Carp/Tench Same same, fair play Nige, but I love a pop up! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I find there is enough boyancy in the straight wagglers or quills that I use to be honest. After all, once the shot is lifted, what resistance is there pulling the float down? In most cases, I prefer a 'standard' float set up for carp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest keenook Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Again fair play Nige, but I still love the big sight bob on a wndbeater, each to their own and all that! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nigewoodcock Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 Again fair play Nige, but I still love the big sight bob on a wndbeater, each to their own and all that! Each to their own, your right Kev, We all have different methods and varieties that we like to use. The same as we all fish in different situations, as you know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
salokcinnodrog Posted March 4, 2011 Report Share Posted March 4, 2011 I love the chipped orange tip of an old Porcupine quill myself Lift float method fished slightly overdepth, and if you are quiet enough its easy enough to present the float in and then slide the float up on a single float band to the depth without scaring the fish. I tend to use the mainline to hooklink join (swivel or knot) as the place to put the weight, be it shot or putty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ghost Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Surely its all about balance . the float and weights being critically balanced so when a fish picks up the bait it feels no resistance and "lifting" the float. I personally like a double goose quill float . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gnorty Posted March 26, 2011 Report Share Posted March 26, 2011 Surely its all about balance . the float and weights being critically balanced so when a fish picks up the bait it feels no resistance and "lifting" the float. I personally like a double goose quill float . no, it's not about critical balance. the rig needs to outweigh the float without the bait (although not by much). When the bait and the bottom hot lifts the float rises, if the fish picks up the bait and swims off, the float dives. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
moorsey Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 I love watching threads about float fishing because someone will always mention "the balance" of the shot to the float. I would hazzard a guess that those same anglers then revert to fishing bolt rigs with the heaviest lead they can cast. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jemsue5 Posted March 27, 2011 Report Share Posted March 27, 2011 I use a 2 swan shot drennan clear loafer fished over depth with the shot about 4" from the hook. Just wind down until the float cocks and wait for it to pop up and lay flat and then slide away before striking. Lots of movement while the fish are in the area mooching about so you will get lots of indications that why i always wait for the float to slide off before striking as you dont want to spook them by striking early. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tucker74 Posted April 26, 2011 Report Share Posted April 26, 2011 i use a drennan no1 stillwater blue, 2 no1 shot and smallest swanshot 6 inchs from the hook, plumb the depth to the swanshot exactly. Any movement of the swanshot will move the float any pick up float pops up a good inch and half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
levigsp Posted May 1, 2011 Report Share Posted May 1, 2011 I use a 2 swan shot drennan clear loafer fished over depth with the shot about 4" from the hook. Just wind down until the float cocks and wait for it to pop up and lay flat and then slide away before striking. Lots of movement while the fish are in the area mooching about so you will get lots of indications that why i always wait for the float to slide off before striking as you dont want to spook them by striking early. About as good a discription as Ive seen. Perfect for any carp that swims and any bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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