greekskii

Apology accepted 😂 but only if you tell me when summer is back!!

I thought the thought of the day thread was a good one. So I suppose, let’s revive it. We’ve had a shed load of rain today, as has most the country. Where has summer gone?!

The door is always open to go back there. I just know it won’t be anytime soon and things change so maybe I won’t want to go back! You’re right though, I’ve got my monies worth and etched my name in the history books with the first ever 30. I need to go carve my initials in to a tree down there (I do it everywhere I finish with). The next place is a different kettle, 10 fish (that I’ve seen with my own eyes) in 4.5 acres. Roughly just under half is accessible and potentially fishable. New challenge, new buzz and its more my type of fishing... luckily for whatever reason it isn’t gin clear yet this year so they won’t see me coming!

I’ve got the new fox drop off help system. Works a treat. Thread on a top bead, a quick link and another bead (or not if you don’t want to) then the Fox system and off you go. Handy as it has a tapered sleeve if you wish naked chods which is removable in the event you fish leaders or leadcore.

Just wrapping up my last session on the estate lake. 4 fish over 2 nights and a load of messing about on the boat and trying to nab one of the surface. Anyone else ever get emotional when you finish with somewhere and leave for the last time?

I’m out tonight and tomorrow. Turned up around 3pm and found a good number of fish in the shallower end of the lake. Went with it and got some bait out and then left it whilst going out on the boat to tidy up the multiple rigs hanging from various trees on the island. Come back to find the area almost empty of fish. I was reluctant to move and stayed put, against everything I know about place. Regret it now it’s almost dark so a quick move at first light should see me with a better chance of a few fish. Last time fishing here for the foreseeable so I want to end on a high!

I get that, I religiously use two bits of foam in pva mesh with the hook inbetween

it shouldnt matter with connectors. you should be able to get them to connect different diameter pipes, say a 32mm (1" I/D) to a 25mm (3/4" I/D).

I can imagine them being awesome for chub on the rivers. Look like some kind of pupae

persevere with it, the fish have to be in front of you for you to have a chance.

Use a brolly or shelter and have your back to the direction of play. You’ll avoid the golf balls that way.

Good to know that. Thought it would be the case. I think to reduce snakeyness a different kind of connector would help. As with poles, they fit in to each other with around 6inches of overlap to strengthen them. A lot more work but sanding down 6 inches on one side to fit inside the other pole may work. But then how secure is it, or if jammed in then how do you get it out.

As you say, drilling small holes down one side opposite to the side you inject the foam in should work. Maybe a trial and error thing though. What are the properties of expanding foam when it gets wet? Does it get heavy at all?

or, would it help using larger diameter conduit for some sections and a thinner one for the spoon? As a normal pole does? Potentially adding to the stability?

dont need to go crazy, just enough to get them coming back regularly. Shelflifes do take a while to break down of course but if eaten then not a problem.

personally I would use more bait to keep the fish feeding. 20 boilies could be gone in seconds with a big head of bream. even 200 would be. just my opinion of course but I think it would at least swing in your favour to bait up with considerably more. I was baiting under a tree on a river a few years back. due to the bream and chub I was putting in 20-25kg of maize in 3 times a week. I'd shimmy up the tree and have a look once finished and that maize looked like barely anything on the bottom. The bream and chub would clear most of it in minutes and the 24mm boilies would be moved around all over the place by the small chub trying to eat them.

Superb work BC. Looks good. As for stiffening it up, would it solve the problem bu just ensuring the entire length is filled with foam? At that length I think plastic will be a bit snakey, unless you connected them with some extended type of connectors to help hold them in place?

Is there a head of bream in there because they'll get rid of that quick. I'd be looking to put at minimum half a kilo of boilies on a spot for prebaiting, or bulking out a smaller number of baits with tiger nuts and other particles.

Yep. But it’s atomic chod wyre not amnesia.

A stiff multi rig. Only good for pop ups, although I dare say if you took away most of the putty (protects the knot) maybe it would suit a wafter if you swap the ring for a swivel.

I needing around 50m to reach what I need, across the lake due to casting room. Be an awful lot of pipe to carry about too. Very interested to see how you've got on and if it works as having a 20m baiting pole when you need it could be really handy!

Conduit will work. Drain pipe is heavier as it needs to be strong. If BC doesn’t find the time then come winter I will make something based on BC’s idea, conduit, expanding foam and glued in M/F connectors. I’ve realised my ambition to use it where I wanted too was just that, unless I made one 25m+ which just seems unreasonable. Back to the drawing board for that one.

what carp in a lake feeds on solely shelf life boilies though...that's where the tests, etc fall down. In a lake or river or canal those fish are eating more than one type of food, and can swim a lot more than a tanks length back and forth.

Why is this? They seem to not bother with frozen. I’d think it might be to do with the longer sessions they seem to do, spending weeks on the bank not days. Or because it’s not cost effective to bait up with 15-20kg of costly frozen baits whereas shelflifes are cheaper as they can be made from simple mixes? There seems to be a preference for hi attract baits over long term frozen baits in Europe.

its carried out on zebra fish? I think we all know shelf lifes are not as good for the fish as fresh/frozen... but what the A.T are spouting is outdated information that is unlikely relevant any more. Things have advanced phenomenally in 10 years since the link Hutch posted, it's outdated. We had to justify using research over 8 years old when doing our assignments because of how rapidly things advance. It's not that the articles are wrong, they were right back when carried out, but now they are irrelevant.