carpepecheur

You did not respond to my suggestion of a collar on the lead to improve grip so may I make another suggestion? If you go for something more conventional like a Fox Kling On, you can improve its effectiveness by adding a small barrel weight a foot or two above the lead. It works a bit like the chain on a ships anchor by flattening the angle at the lead. It is particularly effective in deeper water.

I use a technique that might help solve your problem. I put a large metal washer on a bomb shaped lead. Once cast out, I tighten the line against it gently until it finds a grip on the bottom. It will take a lot more line tension than an ordinary gripper lead. I use it for a different reason. I like to fish your type of water with a very tight monofilament (=stretchy) line. It only takes a very slight vertical movement for a fish to release the lead. The stretch in the tight line causes a movement of the lead when it slips which in turn panics the fish into bolting before it has had time to eject the bait.

My dog understands everything I say. Top of his vocabulary list is the word "fishing". His favourite subject.

I second this advice.

I fish a local reservoir 2 Km long. It is difficult to find any features. However, there is a very steep bank which flattens off at the bottom. In my lake the carp (and bream😒) tend to follow the bottom of the slope parallel to the bank. I found that a huge amount of pre-baiting along this line makes fishing it relatively easy.

The best fishing book of all time IMHO is “Rod, pole or perch” by Colin Willock who some people may remember was the first editor of the angling times. Here is just a snippet “Fishermen may be many things, but they are not patient. They are probably the most impatient men on earth. They are not just sitting there waiting for something to happen. They are expecting, even willing, something to happen, now, the very next second, or the second after that. Even when it doesn’t happen, they still can’t believe that it won’t, but they know that the very first instant that they stop being prepared for it to happen, it will. That is why they are impatient.” Now who does not relate to that observation?

I just repeated the clip and slowed it down 10 times using a camera and fast shutter speed. Although the bait is only very briefly in the "mouth" you can see that the point of the hook bangs the side very aggressively twice before ejecting. If that doesn't nail a fish nothing will

First of all Crucian, you have put your finger on the only downside of using this rig and that is you have to tie a new one every time you need to replace the bait. I actually tie the rig the other way round. First I take a length of the most supple braid I can find. I tie on the hook using a half blood knot to a straight eye or spade end knot if it is an offset eye. Then I thread on the pop up and push it towards the hook. I then add a shot between hook and pop up so that it is just enough to turn the pop up to make the hook hang below it but not enough to sink the pop up. I would use putty but it is hard to find in local shops here. Sometimes, just the weight of the hook is sufficient. It depends on how buoyant the pop up is. The hook pattern does not matter too much but I suspect an offset point might help. I used to think that the gap of the hook should be half the width of the boilie to avoid snagging the line hanging down the side of the boilie but in practise an even a bigger gape never snags. I have done a lot of sucking and blowing with that “artificial carp mouth” to test this. The line is then tied to whatever weight you are using. I tend to use 70 grams inline but the type is not critical. The length of line between the boilie and weight needs to be the distance above the bottom you want your pop up to fish. If I am really honest I rarely use pop ups because most of my fishing is over clean ground and I seem to get more takes on a bottom bait. However, I use a very similar rig which is modified to work on the bottom. I rarely miss a take because it is self-hooking. If you have a 20 mm boilie and the bend of the hook is 20mm below this, the hook describes a huge 40mm arc inside the carp’s mouth. It is virtually impossible for it not to find a hook hold. As I say in the video, the sudden movement the carp feels inside its mouth causes it to bolt immediately. There are no tentative bites, they are all one toners. I hope someone finds this useful. In reply to Snowmanstevo, the whole thing has been filmed using the slow motion feature on my 'phone. The hook whips round quite quickly in real time giving the carp no chance to blow it out.

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I think I have changed it. Please could someone confirm the link is working. If not I may need to post the link again.

Thanks for that buzzbomb I'll go back and change it. Sorry for cock up. Not heard of a clumer but I do put a disk on my leads - but that is differentr technique.

No this thread is not what you think. There has been quite a bit of interest shown in using the multi rig for pop ups. I thought some of you might be interested in my alternative method for pop ups which I have been using for some years now with good success. I just made a short clip on YouTube using the slow motion feature on my ‘phone. It is not very professional but I think it is clear enough to show how it works. The pop up is fished straight off the lead for a reason. When the carp sucks the bait, it whips the hook round inside its mouth very aggressively. Not only does it find a hold straight away but the sudden movement in its mouth causes the fish to bolt straight away coming instantly against the bolt lead and driving the hook home. I am not aware of ever being “done” using this rig but if it does happen the rig is self-setting. Another advantage is that when playing the fish, the weight is close to the carp and not swinging about. This makes the hook hold feel more sure and seems to avoid getting the lead snagged if fishing close to trees etc. I have described this online before but I am not aware of anyone using it. I had lots of negative comments of what people thought would happen such as “likely to foul hook” etc but after several years I have found no problems using it. https://youtu.be/D6DgfsC2W8o

Yes that was the idea that prompted it. They threatened to close vehicle access to a lake I fish and the alternative would have been a very long walk with arthritic knees. It is still in use 10 years later but the Golf has long gone.

Living off my old age pension limits my purchasing power but not my imagination. I use a home made barrow which is very easy to pull because of its large wheels, is preloaded at home, fits snugly into a VW Golf without packing/unpacking and makes a handy fishing station at the swim. Larger items simply strap on top. ----- and it has NEVER tipped over.

Sometimes you just have to improvise 😎

I was just about to go and get my shark equipment to catch Jaws until I realise it was a deer swimming across the lake.

Hope everyone in UK is safe. Stick to the guidelines it could be worse. MANILA (Reuters) - Philippine President Rodrigo Duterte has warned violators of coronavirus lockdown measures they could be shot for causing trouble and said abuse of medical workers was a serious crime that would not be tolerated.

From the same government web site:- The police will act with discretion and common sense in applying these measures and we expect the public to act responsibly, staying at home in order to save lives. However, if the police believe that you have broken these rules – or if you refuse to follow their instructions – a police officer may issue you with a fixed penalty notice for £60 (reduced to £30 if paid within 14 days). If you have already received a fixed penalty notice, the amount will increase to £120 and double on each further repeat offence.

In France, ignoring that rules gets you €135 fine first offence, €1500 fine for second and after three infractions 6 month imprisonment. If a few selfish people ignore that advice then the UK will get lumbered with the same thing.

My thoughts exactly Davyid

This is the government advice – copied and pasted from their own web site. "You should only leave the house for very limited purposes: · shopping for basic necessities, for example food and medicine, which must be as infrequent as possible. · one form of exercise a day, for example a run, walk, or cycle - alone or with members of your household. · any medical need, including to donate blood, avoid or escape risk of injury or harm, or to provide care or to help a vulnerable person. · travelling for work purposes, but only where you cannot work from home. These reasons are exceptions - even when doing these activities, you should be minimising time spent outside of the home and ensuring you are 2 metres apart from anyone outside of your household." Now which part of “stop at the lake and fish for 2/3 weeks” fits that advice? This is not a game. People ARE dying. Be responsible.

I think Dayvid is making a good point. What starts off as an EXCUSE for exercise, then becomes an excuse to fish, then of course you will need a barbeque and a few drinks and a few friends to help and …….. It’s a bit like that bloke stopped halfway up Snowdon in a Range Rover claiming he was going to exercise. WTF Wot Bluebell said. This thing is killing people. Stay at home and go nowhere unless you have to feed yourself or get medicine – and it only takes one of you. How hard can it be? Disclaimer – I am over 70 with COPD so I have a vested interest in people sticking to the very simple rules. I am not ready to die yet just because some [censored] is getting a bit bored.

Just to lighten the mood. Play this at full volume.